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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 05:39 PM Original message |
Daley calls for new state laws on guns |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Has Daley aggressively campaigned for enforcing existing law particularly federal law? Existing laws |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Credit where credit is due |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. "Stiffen penalties" will mean "another bargaining chip during plea agreements" |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What constitutes a "gang member"? |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Someone whom the seller knows to be a member of the Hell's Angels, Gangster Disciples, Bloods... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. That's a problem. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Apparently that is a problem. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Due process is a bitch. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Recreational drugs and the black market our government creates for them. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That may be the best example of the issue that I've ever seen. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I believe in due process, too |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. When the rubber hits the road... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I appreciate your perspective and the education |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. We probably deserve the mess we've created. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. We deserve the idiots we've elected (fixed) - nt |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. "I could easily clear out a neighborhood just using strict traffic enforcement." |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. They just can't cope. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Could you explain how traffic enforcement would help? |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Not everyone agrees with this strategy. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. That sounds reasonable. Thanks for explaining. N/T |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Easiest answer: make it impossible to plead down most gun charges. |
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Chota (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. No parole on violent crimes and only consecutive sentences. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I disagree with the prison conditions. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. "Known" to who? |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The seller? n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Only if there is a mechanism by which the seller can get accurate data on the purchaser. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I think when criminals sell guns locally, they often know who they're selling too. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. O.K., I'll stipulate that that is probably entirely too common. n/t |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 06:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. In Illinois there is a Firearms Owner ID |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Counterfeiting could be an issue. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. that's unconstitutional |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. They just won't give up will they |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I'm beginning to think King Richie might actually believe some of what he says. |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. He is a true believer |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. A Daley in Chicago...a megalomaniac? |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. someone please remind that fascist that he's only a mayor - nt |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Translation: quick, pass more restrictions before the SCOTUS rules on MacDonald |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. Corrupt douchebag. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. What does 'gang member' mean? |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
18. We need to get all these assault weapons off the streets too! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 04:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. None of my weapons has ever assaulted anyone. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. Some of mine may have assaulted someone |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. There were 530 murders in the entire state of Illinois in 2008. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That word, you keep using that word... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Like you did in CA? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Teh stupid... |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. What, specifically, makes an assault |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-11-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
50. They are weapons of war that shoot 30 bullets or more, Who needs those on our streets? |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-11-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. So the problem you have with the |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The Assault Weapons ban includes a limit of ten bullets in the gun already... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. SKS rifles should be made DOUBLE-illegal in California so there's not another Oakland shooting. |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-13-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. So... just because someone killed a |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-13-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. "They are designed to kill people, PERIOD!!!" |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Wait, are you saying my owning a field jacket doesn't make me a soldier? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-11-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Wrong. Weapons of war are covered by the National Firearms Act of 1934. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-11-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. They're almost exclusively NOT on the streets, but in the homes and gun safes of the law-abiding. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-12-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Oh thank goodness... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. I wonder if President Obama |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. Daley is such a schmuck. Some close to him need to ask him the rhetorical question... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. i knew he was against the constitution, but GEEZ |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-10-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What's next, "shunning"? n/t |
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