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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 04:12 PM
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excellent commentary on mcdonald v. chicago case (heller incorporated to states)
at www.volokh.com

one interesting factoid from below:Some of the most prominent scholars who have been critical of gun control started out as gun control advocates

i did not know that. examples provided. good article in general, with links at original site.


Thirty two amicus briefs in McDonald v. Chicago have been filed so far, and they are all available at the Chicago Gun Case website, run by the Second Amendment Foundation (which is one of the parties in McDonald). My brief is also available on SSRN. The next brief (Chicago’s) is not due until Dec. 30, so we have all of Thanksgiving, Advent, and the first 5/12 of the Twelve Days of Christmas to examine the amicus briefs so far.

Today, let’s take a look at the brief of Philosophy and Criminology professors. It’s co-written by Don Kates (one of the founders of modern scholarship of the Second Amendment) and Marc Ayers. The pair had teamed up in Heller to write an excellent brief arguing that DC’s handgun been had been a failure, and probably counter-productive, in terms of public safety.

The new Kates-Ayers brief begins with a survey of the 17th-18th century philosophical view, with which the American Founders agreed, that self-defense was among the most fundamental of all rights, that it was also a duty, and that the right necessarily implied the right to use arms in self-defense. This Part of the brief rebuts the 7th Circuit’s assertion in McDonald that self-defense is merely a “gloss” on the criminal law, and could be abolished by statute.

Next, the brief provides a litany of evidence showing that most murderers are not otherwise law-abiding citizens who impulsively kill because a gun happens to be available. To the contrary, murders overwhelmingly tend to have prior records of serious crime and mental illness. This particular topic has been a long-running theme of Kates’ three decades of scholarship on firearms policy.

A long section titled “Research makes gun ban advocates recant” provides a history of the social science debate on gun control in the U.S. since the 1960s. Some of the most prominent scholars who have been critical of gun control started out as gun control advocates, but changed their mind because of the evidence. These include James Wright, Gary Kleck, Marvin Wolfgang, and Hans Toch (a member of the 1968–69 Eisenhower Commission which had promised that reducing handgun availability would reduce crime).

Finally, there are several pages responding to a recent study (by Branas et al. from Penn) claiming that guns are ineffective for protection in an urban environment because gun carriers are supposedly more likely to be shot than non-carriers...

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taurus145 Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 04:36 PM
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1. So it begins
The anti's, or at least some of them, are coming to their senses.

A gun ban or restrictive legislation will have about an equal effect on gun as prohibition did on alcohol.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:11 PM
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2. Or drugs... Sigh. n/t
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HALO141 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:27 PM
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3. Interesting.
Thanks for the link.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 05:44 PM
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4. Link to the brief in question..
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