Guarded by police, woman slain

[Katya Mullethov]

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 12 (UPI) -- Investigators were trying to determine Thursday how a man got into a woman's apartment and killed her while police stood watch outside, Los Angeles police said.

Police at the scene shot the attacker but not before he fatally stabbed the woman, the Los Angeles Times reported.....................


Only in the most civilized of societies are the police just scant moments away .

[Arctic Dave]

1. Sounds like a professional hit. Being armed wouldn't have helped either.

If someone wants you dead, it will happen.

[PavePusher]

2. Still, better a slim chance than none at all. n/t

[left coaster]

4. No pro hit..

It was another case of domestic violence taken to the extreme.

[Katya Mullethov]

10. Probably an enforcer for one of the gun cartels

There is more than one cartel , right ?

[eqfan592]

14. Wow, you say that with just a BIT too much certainty...

...and that hurts your argument. As it's already been stated, some chance is better than none. An armed woman with a gun vs a man with a knife stands a better chance of living than this poor woman did, and to try and say there was no chance at all for it to help is simply disingenuous.

[Katya Mullethov]

16. And nobody said you get to win them all either

Sometimes everybody dies . Sometimes the best you can hope for is to kill 'em back .

[left coaster]

3. Is this the same domestic abuse/murder story that was posted on DU right after it happened?

If it is, you're leaving out most of the details..

Is this the story you are referring to?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/11/slaying-suspect-broke-through-back-window-as-police-kept-watch-in-front.html

[Katya Mullethov]

5. Only the REALLY important stuff

Like what ?

"The officers were screaming, “Open the door! Open the door!” the witness told The Times. They were trying so bad to get in because I think they were watching through the window what was going on,” the witness said."

[left coaster]

6. Are you really that thick?

The scant info you provided makes it sound like some random man broke in and killed this woman. This was someone she was involved with, and there was a history of domestic abuse here. Those are PRETTY important facts, I should think..


Next time, why not provide a link to the story, instead of cherry picking a few sentences to share.

[TPaine7]

7. If anyone is thick here, I don't think it's Katya

I see nothing to indicate thickness on Katya's part.

Her point, assuming I understand it, is that police can't be depended on to protect you. This fact is emphasized by this story--the police didn't even protect a known victim from a known threat.

She didn't mention all of the details, but the details make her case stronger. Knowing the threat in advance is an advantage.

This was apparently not a military genius or secret operative, it was a garden variety thug smart enough to use a rear entrance when police are watching the front door.

On another current thread you can read the argument that a teacher couldn't possibly need a gun when there are police and sherrif's deputies just down the street. This post illustrates the folly of that line of thinking.

Katya's point--it is not reasonable to expect police to protect you personally--is well illustrated by this story. Adding the missing data simply makes the illustration stronger.

I see no thickness on her part.

[Euromutt]

9. A link would have been good, but what's cherry-picked here?

When I read the OP, I assumed the perp in the story was an estranged/former significant other, or perhaps a stalker, but at any rate someone known to the victim. I assumed that the cops would not be watching the apartment unless the perp had a personal motive to harm the woman, and was therefore more likely to come back.

Asserting that Katya was cherry-picking suggests she(?) was trying to make a point, and I think she was, but not the one you were thinking of. I rather think the point was that you can be murdered even with the cops right outside your front door, which is a persuasive counter to the argument (used for example in this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x269678) that if you're threatened with violence by an intimate partner, you should rely on the police to protect you instead of carrying a firearm.

[Katya Mullethov]

11. A density rivaled only by that of a singularity

For those with none , here's yet another scant clue ,.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&fkt=3844&fsdt=9766&q=guarded+woman+slain&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

[virginia mountainman]

12. You completely missed the point...

The police where at her door, to protect her...and failed....

[eqfan592]

15. Ummm, if the police KNEW who the potential attacker was....

...and STILL couldn't stop him, doesn't that actually strengthen the OP's point? Thanks, I guess. You've done well :)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

8. But we should all give up our guns and count on the police and the mercy of criminals.

[yost69]

13. Amen, The Police will protect us all.

:sarcasm: