Store Owner Upset After Killing Armed Robber With Robber's Own Gun.

[GreenStormCloud]

Here is the link: http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1109/679391.html Watch the video at the link. The owner is having trouble sleeping afterwards.

Summary of the event. Two armed robbers came into the store. One stopped at the door to guard it, the other began to crawl though the small service window in the bullet-resistant glass at the counter in an attempt to get to the owner. A struggle for robber's gun began. The owner gained control of the gun and shot the robber. The robber has not yet been identified.

Noteworthy about this is that this store owner demonstrates what many gunnies here also say. There is a strong emotional price to pay for killing another human, even if it was necessary for self-defense.

Also interesting is that the owner took the robber's gun away from him and used it on the robber.

[imdjh]

1. Some stores around here have signs on the front door: No hoods, hats, or sunglasses.

[benEzra]

4. Those signs always struck me as quite odd.

Why don't they just put up a sign that says "no robbing this store allowed"? The robbers would be just as likely to obey that sign as the other, and it wouldn't inconvenience the regular customers...

[imdjh]

5. The practice varies from store to store- but I could see it being effective.

It's not the same as a sign that says "no robbing of this store" , it's a sign that says, "You fashion statement will cause me to put one hand on a gun and the other on a panic button." It also signals law abiding people to alter their behavior in a way that actually protects their local businessman. Wearing a hoodie with sunglasses doesn't mean that you are a robber, but most of the robbers around here wear hoodies and sunglasses. So if law abaiding community conscious people take the hood down or off, and leave the sunglasses in the car before entering the corner store, it becomes the expected behavior, futher singling out the person who is trying to avoid being identified and caught on camera.

Regions Bank has a similar policy. If you walk in there with sunglasses, the sign asks you to take them off, then a receptionist will ask you to take them off, then a teller will refuse to serve you until you take them off. As a result, people don't wear sunglasses into Regions Bank anymore.

[X_Digger]

8. What's next, "No Unabombers"?

No mustaches? hehe

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. Goblin? Really?

No need to dehumanize a person. He may have been a bad person, or a person doing a bad thing, but he was still a person - and that is EXACTLY what this is about. The store owner recognizes that he killed a human being. It may have been necessary, but not something to celebrate.

[GreenStormCloud]

3. OK. In this case I will change it. It does create a conflict. N/T

[imdjh]

7. It was a perfect word for a criminal who comes flying through a small hole in the wall ready to kill

[imdjh]

6. Criminal, thug, murderer, take your pick.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Criminal, thug, no problem. Murderer - no. So far as we know he

didn't kill anyone, though the potential was there.

Goblin dehumanizes the criminal, meaning, makes him less than human. You know, kinda like nigger. Would that be a good description? Like the gunfighter in the old west who 'killed only five men, 'ceptin of course the spicks and chinks - if you include them that makes it twenty or so.'

The OP was cognizant enough to recognize that a key component to justifying killing is to dehumanize the one killed and changed it (thank you). The fact that the criminal was in the process of committing a crime is justification enough - no need to make him less than human.

[imdjh]

11. Piece of shit it is then.

[one-eyed fat man]

14. one teensy tiny point

Your claim that the ".....key component to justifying killing is to dehumanize the one killed....." is bogus. What made the killing justifiable was the decedent's threat, at gunpoint, and apparent willingness to kill for money!

You may be right tangentially, however, as I, for one, ascribe none of the positive attributes of humanity to those who choose to steal, rape, assault, molest children, or otherwise engage in predatory, violent, and despicable behaviors. If you want an analogy, they are like a cancer on the body politic. While you can argue about what causes cancers, if you fail to excise the malignancy, it will remorselessly and mindlessly kill you. You prefer the outcomes on too many other surveillance tapes where the robber callously executes a clerk on her knees?

Very few interventions stop recidivism in career criminals as effectively as a well-placed bullet.

[Gumbo]

15. About as well as it can be said.

[imdjh]

16. The worst crime here is that the POS forced a decent man to kill a man.

And another POS objects to him being called a monster. I'd like to see how that goes over in a rape thread.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

13. OK then, "perp"

[imdjh]

17. What he really wants to call the goblin is a "victim" . He's trying to figure out how the perp....

.... is the victim. He would love to go into some horseshit about how this choir boy was forced into a life of crime and disregard for human life by the evil corner store capitalist, and if the proprietor hadn't been an immigrant then he probably would have. We'll have to dub this situation "Raleigh's Paradox".

[chibajoe]

18. From the dictionary (collins english)

goblin <ˈgɒblɪn>
n
(Myth & Legend / European Myth & Legend) (in folklore) a small grotesque supernatural creature, regarded as malevolent towards human beings


I will admit that, having not seen a picture of the criminal, I can not say if he was grotesque or not, and I will concede the point that he was not supernatural; however, to fit through the exchange window would imply that he was probably of relatively slight build (i.e. small), and the fact that he had a gun and was in the process of committing a robbery implies that he at the very least had some malevolent intentions towards at least one human being. In light of this, I think goblin is a very apt moniker.

[slackmaster]

10. I'd be upset too

What a bummer.

[imdjh]

12. Yes, unlike the criminals, the law abiding person has it culturally ingrained that killing is the...

.... unforgivable sin.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

19. Actually killing is not an unforgivable sin for most xtians