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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:23 AM Original message |
Family Of Boy Killed By Uzi Sues Gun Show |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. I would throw that out of court. The family let a 15 year old |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. The parents are suing based on the gun's defectiveness... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. They're blaming the owner, for not properly maintaining the weapon |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I sit corrected |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Federal law prohibits suing a gun manufacturer for a defect unless the weapon is actually defective |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And that's exactly as it should be. |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Not true. This toy, is a bad design. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It's not a toy. It's a highly regulated weapon designed for very special situations. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Yes, a bad design. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. I'm certain 'use by an 8 year old' wasn't in the design specs. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. whereas the father had no role? |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Either this is another example of poor reporting... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Reading the stories the accident had nothing to do with the gun |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. A LOADED uzi no less... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. +1 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. It sounds like they have a good case |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. It was also a massive epic failure on the |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. Oh for the love of God. These people better not reap a profit over |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. If they are like most parents, they're not qualified to teach firearm safety to their own kids |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Any parents who hand, or watch someone hand, their 8 year old a loaded weapon |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. That's BULLSHIT, you saw that carny didnt have any teeth, before you let your child ride the tilt o |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And, stretch.... |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Right. But it's ok for every gun owner to teach their kids about guns as soon |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I co-hosted a pumpkin shoot on Sunday |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
85. First off, not everybody teaches their kids about guns at that age. Few do, actually. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. i feel the same way |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. Bingo! n/t |
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redwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. A 15 year old and an 8 year old with a loaded Uzi |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
72. So true |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. This happened here in my neck of the woods. Ask me anything. |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Wasn't it the father who took the kid to the gun show? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. Yes, it was. nt |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Ok, how cum you use the same avatar? Bonobo? |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. Um, the responsibility is the FATHER'S, who thought it was OK |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. What about the mother? |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. If she divorced him, I'd be fine with her suing. But not the father. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. "this sucks" |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Wait a minute. |
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Stargazer09 (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Wait a minute! |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. You should not take legal advice from a person who may owe you |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. I think there is a duty to divorce before recovering this loss, yes. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
82. Her criminally negligent spouse took her child's life |
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masshole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Not the Fathers fault - there was an expectation of safety |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. The father is an ER doctor |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. There is no expectation of safety when a child is firing a gun. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. The father is a DOCTOR |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
12. Good!! |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. If the 15 year old |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yup. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. The sponsor of the gun show has been charged with involuntary manslaughter |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. He's busted. Fuck him. nt |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
17. what parent lets an 8 yr. old handle a Uzi! and |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. Okay, HERE is where I saw red: UZI. UZI, FGS. THIS is what we protect with the 2nd A.?? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Like all other fully automatic weapons, the micro Uzi is strictly regulated |
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texanshatingbush (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
29. I've never been to a gun show.....have a question for those who have..... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. It is customary for all weapons at gun shows to be unloaded |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. it is at a maching gun shoot. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
31. I need to know something... |
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BennyD (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why does a family with an 8-yr old have an Uzi? That's my ??? n/t |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. The family didn't have an Uzi |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
42. What about the parents who put a SUBMACHINE GUN into the hands of an 8-YEAR-OLD!? Do I |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. No, you don't have to keep asking. |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
44. question for those who know UZIs. |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. When it jams it stops firing |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. No, but there is another condition known as a runaway |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I think the short muzzle of the uzi allowed it to 'spin' and then fire upside down. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Not really. Lots of stupid involved on this case. by all parties. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Especially since Uzis have grip safeties |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
83. "or so hot that rounds cook off in the chamber" |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Remember this is a "Mini-Uzi" NOT a real Uzi |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
46. The father should sue himself for complete |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Nov 08: "The father said he and the boy's mother 'have no regrets.'" |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Oh, my ,that's even more sickening. If that's what he needs |
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dairydog91 (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Responsibility? What's that? |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
48. Just a quick observation and comment: A 15 yo should NOT............. |
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robo50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. I have to agree. It's strange that the kid would even be allowed to |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
50. I hope the dingbats that ran this show get convicted |
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SlingBlade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
60. What a total waste and for what ? |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. "who would want their child around such a deadly machine"... |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
61. Boy hands baby a rattlesnake. Parents sue snake farm. Parents are dumbasses. n/t |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. If snake falrm NEW it has poisonous snake and STILL permitted it to happen, yes they should be sued |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
64. ahhhh, lawsuit... its the American way isn't it |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
69. i hope they win handily |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. They don't deserve the money |
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dairydog91 (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. If the gun was defective and jamming, the kid wouldn't have shot himself in the head. |
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