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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:38 PM
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Get Ready for the Fort Hood Shooter Used Cop-Killer Gun
Brady Campaign chimes in:

WASHINGTON --- Four and a half years ago, three police organizations in the United States issued advisories to warn officers that a new handgun introduced into the U.S. market by a Belgium manufacturer of military firearms represented a unique threat to the safety of police officers.

It was a handgun that was designed to fire bullets through body armor. A U.S. Senator and a U.S. Congressman urged a legal ban on civilian possession of the firearm, which began being referred to as the “cop killer gun.”

The gun, manufactured by FN Herstal of Belgium, is lightweight and easily concealable, and was designed as a military sidearm to complement military rifles made by the same company. One law enforcement expert referred to the Five-Seven as “an assault rifle that fits in your pocket.” While no police officer has reportedly been killed by a suspect armed with a Five-Seven, it may now have taken the lives of U.S. soldiers.

Today, several news sources are reporting that it was the Five-Seven that Nidal M. Hasan used in his shooting attack at Fort Hood in Texas Thursday. In January 2005, the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), International Brotherhood of Police Officers (IBPO) and the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives (NOBLE), released their alert to the police community at a press conference, joined by U.S. Senator Charles Schumer and Congressman Elliott Engel of New York.

http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/news-fort-hood-shooter-used-cop-killer-armor-piercing-handgun-r-1257543702

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Records indicate Hasan bought the FN 5.7 at store called "Guns Galore" in Killeen, Texas, well before the attack that left 13 people dead, one of the officials said. The pistol has been dubbed a "cop killer" by those who have tried to stop its use.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iU2FSOlnxfzhAwbNibWTIhohwLVQD9BQA0A80
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:43 PM
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1. It'a all about money and Belgian capitalist pigs.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:45 PM
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2. A high speed .22
Good thing the shooter didn't use a .45. I mean, after all, the victims didn't have on a flak jacket.

The IACP is the biggest collection of idiots on the planet. The FOP doesn't agree with them on much of anything.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:49 PM
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3. Mediocre, overhyped novelty gun.
If the Bradys had two brain cells to rub together they'd know it's only "armor piercing" if you use the proper armor piercing ammo with it, which is not sold to civilians. With the regular FMJ ammo that US civilians can get for it, all you have is a glorified .22 magnum. The low power of this guy's bullets probably allowed some victims to survive who'd otherwise die, including the police officer who got shot multiple times taking him down.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 05:53 PM
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4. The FN FiveseveN fires the 5.7mm bottlenecked cartridge.
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 05:58 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
In all practical trems, it's firing a lightweight 5.56mm slug out of a pistol length case having about the power a .22 mag. Yes, the 5.7mm is efectively a glorified .22wmr (magnum rimfire). MANY pistol caliber rounds have more power... including the lowly 9mm. With the porper AP ammunition, most handgus could defeat ballistic vests as well.

Furthermore, the ammo used by the shooter was in almost all likilhood NON-armor peircing. 5.7mm armBuying the firearm and ammo privately, the soldier would not have qualified as an LEO or Mil agency alone and been forced to buy regular civilian ammo. Armor piercing variants of the 5.7x28mm are only offered to law enforcement and military customers. Commercially available variants of the 5.7x28mm cartridge are classified by the ATF as being not armor piercing.

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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 06:33 PM
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5. ...Senator Charles Schumer...
That's all I needed to read. When it comes to guns, if his name is in it.. full of shit.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:19 PM
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6. The media will blindly repeat, cause they can't be bothered to research anything themselves
CNN just called the gun an FN Five-Seven 9mm. Crack investigative team they got there.
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:26 PM
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7. Gee I wonder why they call it a five seven
5.7 = 9 CNN math
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:03 PM
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8. "Crack investigative team they got there"
"Crack investigative team they got there"

May I use that?

STOP IT, your delivery was priceless, I can't quit laughing!



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