Boy, 3, shoots himself in face with father’s gun

[onehandle]

A BOY aged three died after apparently shooting himself in the face with his father’s gun, according to police in the US.

The boy’s mother said in an emergency call that William McAnaul pulled the trigger after he found the 9mm handgun under a bed in the family’s home in the Dayton, Ohio, suburb of Vandalia. He died at a Dayton hospital, the Dayton Daily News reported.

Vandalia city spokesman, Rich Hopkins, called it an "absolutely tragic accident".

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[madmax]

Tragic Accident my ASS!!!

Damn guns and stupid people. :grr:

[Duckhunter935]

1. Father should be charged

[baldguy]

2. +1

Manslaughter, at least.

[E-Mag]

4. What about the mother? (N/T)

[Duckhunter935]

6. not the mothers weapon

[E-Mag]

15. I dont understand how she

gets a pass if she knew that it was under the bed and did nothing about it.

[doc03]

3. How could a father with a 3 year old be stupid

enough to leave a loaded gun unlocked? He would probably even be stupid enough to leave the keys in his car but in that case people wouldn't have blamed the car if the kid got hurt.

[paulsby]

16. or if he had left the bathtub partially filled with water

drowning in the bathtub is a much more common cause of death for kids this age than firarms incidents. either way, it's tragic.

[Old and In the Way]

5. Pity the parents...they'll live with this their entire lives.

The guilt, the anguish, the loss...I wonder how their views on the role of guns for self protection have or haven't changed in light of their tragedy?

[lindisfarne]

7. Good thing the safety was on & it was locked in a gun cabinet like all gun owners do since they're

all responsible.

[imdjh]

8. My grandfather had a loaded revolver on his bureau all my young life.

[lindisfarne]

9. One can conclude your grandfather would today be considered irresponsible & negligent if

children were allowed any access to the room. It's that simple.

Quite honestly, I have no idea what the point of your reply was.

[imdjh]

11. What was a gun doing under the bed? Stupid place.

When I was three, I had no idea there was a gun on the bureau because I wasn't tall enough to see it.

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[Fire_Medic_Dave]

13. What a ridiculous strawman! Please post a link to where anyone with a brain said all..

gun owners are responsible and behave that way.

[proteus_lives]

12. Father should be charged.

With kids that age, you have to be careful about your firearms.

[trumanh59639]

14. Ahh the 2nd amendment at work

What a great right, isn't it?

[eqfan592]

19. Bush and co manipulated the nation...

...into believing there was just cause in going into Iraq. This lead to the deaths of thousands of Americans and possibly millions of Iraqi's. He did this not from the barrel of a gun but with his (and others) words and manipulations.

The 1st Amendment at work. What a great right, isn't it?

[rd_kent]

25. Yes, it is great right!

The true pity is when people fail to be responsible when exercising their Constitutional rights. What else is unfortunate are ignorant people like you who see guns as the problem and not the people USING the guns as the problem.

[iverglas]

26. huh

The only person who used this gun was the child.

Bring to mind the refrain oft heard: you don't need a licence to own a car.

So if cars are just like guns, why should anyone need a licence to own a gun?

Now I'm sure someone will produce a story about a three-year-old finding a car under the carport and hitting him/herself in the face with it and falling over dead ...

[rd_kent]

29. Well, in this case it was the parents

who failed to properly use the gun. They left it unattended and accessible to a 3 year old.

Not sure of your point about licenses. Most place do not require a license to OWN a gun. One may need a permit to carry a gun concealed, but not the same thing.
Oh, yeah, and one does not need to OWN a gun to get a concealed carry permit.

[iverglas]

30. that's okay

I didn't expect anybody to, uh, get it.

[rd_kent]

31. Then, uh, why post it?

I was serious when I said I didnt get your point. Before we get into a pissing match, would you care to explain, or should we just trade insults?

[Taitertots]

32. The father will be charged with the crime he committed

Seem like the second amendment wasn't the problem.

You don't cut someone's tongue off to prevent them screaming fire in a theater. You don't block all religion because some priests were pedophiles.

[jeepnstein]

17. Yeah, it's a "tragic accident"...

It's also a crime. Not only are the parents going to have to live with the loss of a child, Dad is going to have to do a little time for his carelessness. There is no excuse for what he did.

With rights come responsibilities. It's as simple as that.

[Scout]

18. tragic yes, accident not so much n/t

[iverglas]

20. here's a funny thing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=239655&mesg_id=239770

Could it be that I was the only person expressing dismay at this individual announcing that he had a loaded firearm in the "glove locker" (local lingo for the glove compartment, I assume) of his car? Evidently when he wasn't in the car with it, even?

Huh, eh?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

22. My glove compartment has a lock on it, does yours?

[iverglas]

23. nope

Does his?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. No idea. Doesn't matter, if he does he didn't have it locked.

[iverglas]

28. I despair

The question was actually about the person to whom my post to which you replied referred ... since I assumed this was a discussion of something and not just a random collection of random thoughts ...

That person was the owner of the vehicle dealership whom I quoted in the post to which you initially replied. Just in case you're interested in following the conversation you decided to take part in.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

33. Don't despair I'll explain it to you.

You brought up a concern about firearm in glove compartments. It seemed like you weren't aware that some could be locked so I thought I would inform you of that fact. See it's really not that hard.

David

[Lorax]

21. The 3 year old was in the room alone?

So, was the 3 year old wandering around unsupervised?

[iverglas]

24. a 3-yr-old "wandering around unsupervised" in his own home???

Gasp.



it's amazing how one can make a typo in a total of 10 words ...

[Lorax]

34. Yes, gasp!

There are any number of horrible accidents that can happen to a 3 y/o child who is allowed to wander around unsupervised. Even in his own home. Maybe even **especially** in his own home.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you mention a typo. I hope you are referring to needing to edit your own post and not referring to my post. In any case, you might want to focus on the conversation and try not to get off on tangents. I'd also suggest that people might be more receptive to some of the points you are trying to make if you dialed down the sarcasm.