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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:35 PM
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Any Liberal Gun Lovers on here?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:37 PM
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1. Actually if you go the guns topic board it's always lively.
We call it the "gudgeon" as firearm topics usually get sent there to prevent flame wars.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:38 PM
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2. Yes.
And nuclear power advocates, too.

Some excellent discussions in these topic forums...

The Gun Forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=118

The Energy and Environment Forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=115

:patriot:
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:40 PM
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5. Oh my, thank you. I've found heaven.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:35 PM
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21. You're welcome!
Surprising, isn't it?

And refreshing!

:toast:
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:38 PM
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3. Oxymoron, but here's the link
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:17 AM
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39. Many, many liberals and progressives keep and bear arms. Hard fact (nt)
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:39 PM
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4. Can't you find something warm to love?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:42 PM
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6. love is a Warm Gun....
:pals:
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:55 AM
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45. yep yep
wife bought me a new 1900 fps pellet gun.

damned thing hits as hard as my .17

thinking I may try to plink a deer with it..with a backup .243
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 12:19 PM
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46. 1900 fps? holy crap!!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:44 PM
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7. I like liberal guns as well as any other kind
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:46 PM
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8. I only like middle of the road guns to love
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:56 PM
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9. Liberal Gun Lover...No
Liberal Gun Right's Supporter -- Yes

I don't own any guns
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:01 PM
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10. Gun owner
x3

Not really a lover of them though. I don't love my shovel either, but it's a useful tool.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:03 PM
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11. Wouldn't go so far as to say "lover", but I enjoy them. n/t
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:06 PM
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12. me...
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My bullet can reach...




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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:09 PM
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13. Present. But I only have shotguns and rifles that my father has willed to me.
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 10:11 PM by ShortnFiery
I was the youngest by 13 years and dad would take me out shooting clay pigeons and, with my older brothers, to hunt pheasant. I didn't care much about the shotguns because, as hard as I tried to secure it, it would kick and give me a nice bruise.

Every other year or so, dad commented to my mom that he wanted to get a new rifle FOR ME. :wtf: She knew it was for him but it was a game we played so he could add to his collection. I miss those days. ;)
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:21 AM
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40. Yeah, like buying a record album... for my folks, of course!...
My Dad bought me a new shotgun in 1961 just for me. I found out, some 40 years later after unscrewing the butt plate, that he had written my name into the wood. I understand.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:21 PM
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14. First American "gun lover"
One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them.
--- Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:31 PM
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15. I think the words gun and love are mutually exclusive.
Loving an object is idiotic. Now, fondness for your automatic may be the expression to use.
:smoke:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:32 PM
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16. Proud Liberal gun owner here
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:35 PM
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17. I love virtual guns, but I am indifferent to real guns. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:41 PM
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18. I own quite a few long & hanguns but I not a gun nut or in love with them..
I rarely carry one even thou I have a CC for several states. Perhaps its from viewing them as a tool for 35 yrs.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:46 PM
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19. Love?
Probably not,
I go months without caressing my SKS.

But if somebody breaks in I'd rather have a gun than a knife.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 10:53 PM
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20. I enjoy shooting sports. And not just the kind were an animal has to die.
Small bore silhouette, IPSC, IDPA, high power rifle, slow fire, etc. I also reload for the cost savings and better accuracy.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:23 AM
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22. my husband and i own
handguns for personal protection. do i love them? strange question. i like having the right to own one.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:53 AM
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23. A lot more than you have been led to expect.
More than I expected, certainly.


mark
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 01:45 AM
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24. I prefer "enthusiast" myself, or "aficionado"
Edited on Fri Jun-05-09 01:45 AM by Euromutt
But yeah, you've found the place. All five of the people who supported Bill Richardson are on here, myself included. (I wrote in Richardson, but only after I was certain Obama would take this state.)
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 02:05 AM
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25. I own a few guns
not sure where they are right now though, haven't seen them in about two years, back of a closet I guess.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 05:48 AM
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26. Why? Is there legislation being pushed by RWers to make marriage between one man and one .38?
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:25 AM
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27. I think the GOP condones polyhoply
That is, the right to be welded, excuse me, wedded to more than one firearm. Indeed, it's probably a duty: one 1911, one Remington 870 and one AR-15 at least.
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Xela Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:24 AM
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28. Armed Pacifist Liberal here...
Welcome aboard.

There's a lot more of us out there than you probably imagined.

Many links and info can be found through the following:
http://www.americangunculturereport.com/
http://guntards.net/
http://progunprogressive.com/
http://www.progunprogressive.com/phpBB2/
http://a2dems.net/
http://blogs.myspace.com/a2dems
http://theliberalgunclub.com/

Kind regards,

Xela
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 03:11 PM
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29. Right Here!
:fistbump:
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423aaron Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:11 AM
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30. I would like to know just what qualifies as "liberal".
Amongst liberal gun owners. What about you makes you liberal?

(Yes I'm struggling to see just where I fit.)
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:41 AM
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31. I use 'liberal' in its 'expansive' context
I consider myself a liberal American, and seek to exercise my fundamental rights liberally. Fortunately, the US Constitution is itself a liberal document, enumerating and enshrining these rights, so that all we citizens must do is be watchful and active in protecting them.

When it comes to the First Amendment and the fundamental freedoms of speech and religion, I support all peaceable assemblies and petitions to redress grievances. I support Code Pink's efforts to raise awareness on the costs of our nation's wars, and the public-health plan's advocates' efforts to reach Baucus in his staged 'hearings.' Twenty years ago this month, I was one of the high school students protesting in solidarity with China's fledgling student democracy forces and against the Tiananmen Square crackdown. I similarly work on behalf of the separation between church & state, even as I am careful to never let this work become a barrier to any individual's free expression of their own spirituality.

When it comes to the Second Amendment, I am similarly 'liberal.' The Founding Fathers intended us citizens to be free to keep and bear arms. I do own a few, and use them for target shooting and other legal purposes. I also support efforts to reduce barriers to the exercise of this right.

I could keep going down the list, but hopefully you get the idea: liberalism = expansive about our liberties, with a social conscience besides (thus distinguishing itself from libertarianism). Fourth Amendment? I support an expansive notion of our right to be secure in our persons and properties from unreasonable search & seizure. Fourteenth Amendment? I am liberal about the need for equal protection.

Liberalism and a vigorous support of the RKBA are a natural fit.

-app
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423aaron Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:12 AM
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33. Though it would cause conservitavs a stroke..
I have often thought that the founders were actually the more liberal of the people. They wanted change. The Tories wanted things to stay the same.

It seems that societies are usually broken down into 1/3rds. 1/3 liberal, 1/3 conservative, and 1/3 who do not care.

It seems this proportion may be necessary to keep us from just running off and blowing ourselves up or stagnating.

...
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:54 AM
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44. Liberalism and support of RKBA do not fit in with
the NRA. Ronald Reagan and Dick Cheney are Gods to them.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:38 AM
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42. Well, not to get into a pissing contest, look at other issues as well...
Reproductive rights? For
Guaranteed health care? For
Gay rights/marriage? For
Strong carbon emission standards? For
Expansion of public lands? For
Strong regulation of banks/lending institutions? For

...How am I doing, so far?...

Legalization/reasonable regulation of drugs? For
End of military policy of pre-emption? For
Return to fair taxing policies? For
Strong support for the Second Amendment? For
Unitary presidency? No

There are more. I showed you mine. Now, let's see yours.
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livetoride Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:12 AM
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32. Count me
in the Liberal gun owner / lover camp..
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 12:13 PM
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34. Liberal here...gun lover, no. Owner yes.
I also see firearms as tools and I have respect for their destructive capabilities. I see no oxymoron between being liberal and owning firearms.
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ak6903 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:28 PM
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35. Yup
I have my carry permit
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:17 AM
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36. How do you tell if a gun is Liberal?
n/t.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:26 AM
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37. Isn't picky about ammo? heh. n/t
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:40 AM
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43. Yeah, someone brought up .38s (nt)
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:40 AM
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38. Yup!
As one of the folks late to the party (I voted Republican until 2006) I often feel I'm not "liberal enough" around here but nonetheless, I am a firearm owner who is pro-environment, anti-corporatism, anti-war, anti-Patriot Act, anti-domestic-surveillance, anti-war-on-terror, anti-enemy-combatant-status, anti-war-on-drugs, pro-health-care, and pro-choice.

Consequently I vote for Democrats.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:26 AM
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41. Being from the South, "gun lover" has a negative ring to it, as in...
"N_____ lover." People tend to forget those bad ol' days. I cringe a little when I hear "Saturday night special," another racially-inspired expression.
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