Hank Williams Jr. Can’t Reload in Ammunition Shortage

[RamboLiberal]

April 15 (Bloomberg) -- Gun City USA, the largest gun store in Nashville, Tennessee, has sold arms to country music stars Hank Williams Jr., George Jones and their entourages. What it can’t sell them much of right now is ammunition to reload.

“We have very, very little of any caliber,” said Larry Baity, a 74-year-old counter clerk at Gun City who said he has waited on Williams. “We’re virtually out. We’ve got a lot of bare shelves.”

The scene at Gun City is playing out across the U.S. as record gun sales deplete stocks from ammunition makers Alliant Techsystems Inc. and Olin Corp. Demand for firearms is being driven in part by concern that U.S. President Barack Obama may impose new controls, said Matt Rice, a spokesman for Springfield, Massachusetts-based Smith & Wesson Holding Corp.

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Williams, who lists “fishing, hunting, gun collecting” as hobbies on his Web site, posted a separate video on YouTube in October in which he called the shotguns owned by his father and grandfather “sacred things.”

“When Barack Obama said folks like you and me were bitter, and clinging to guns and religion, I knew he just doesn’t understand small town America,” Williams said in the spot for McCain. “We love our God, and we love our guns.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUmcE_qm_YXI&refer=home

Hey Hank, you and your rowdy friends need to wise up and stop this Y2K black helicopter paranoia. Quit being greedy jerks by panic buying. I'm pissed at all these bare ammo shelfs I'm seeing because of idiot hoarders!

[Stellabella]

1. Hey Hank, who would Jesus shoot?

What a dildo.

[spin]

13. Read your Bible...

Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. (Luke 22:35-38, NIV)

[katandmoon]

14. Proof that Jesus ever even existed, much less ever actually said such a thing?

[spin]

38. Of course that's the question...

but when a person makes a statement like that, I would assume that they believe in the existence of Jesus. Since so many Christians take the Bible as literal truth, I like to point out that while Christ opposed violence, he did indicate that he was not against having a weapon for self defense.

[east texas lib]

41. Proof that Jesus did not exist?

It cannot be proved or disproved, I believe.

[polichick]

2. Hank Jr. needs to reload his brain every once in a while.

[SPedigrees]

11. I think he suffered brain damage

when he fell off the cliff in the Rockies back in the 80s.

[polichick]

27. Drinking at a early age can do a lot of damage too.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

63. A real progressive making fun of the physically disabled and those with alcohol problems.

[polichick]

64. Just stating a fact jack - there's nothing funny about it.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

65. Whatever you need to stay to justify it to yourself.

[polichick]

66. I don't have to justify a thing - I stand by every word I posted...

If you have any doubt that Hank Jr. needs to reload his addled brain, listen to this little ditty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81brjpteDk

[rl6214]

15. Thats good

Don't have anything constructive to add so attack the gun owner personally.

[polichick]

19. LOL - why didn't you cry for Hank, the poor widdle "God lover"???

[rl6214]

And I thought

You were having a rational discussion in other parts of this thread. I guess not. How old are you?

[polichick]

22. How bright are you?? I'm making fun of your worry over poor widdle gun owners...

I'm sick of that "poor me" crap from people who care more about their obsession than they do about the country.

[rl6214]

25. How bright am I?

You are the one getting all worked up and stooping to the juvenile tactic of making fun of people and making infantile posts "poor widdle gun owners". Typical gun grabber BS, can't debate a subject logically so you resort to juvenile tactics. Grow up.

[polichick]

26. I stand by my assessment of Hank Jr. - you're the one who whined about it.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

34. I'm sick of scared little ninnies who don't care about the Constitution.

[polichick]

36. Sorry, but there's nobody more scared than the gun clingers who stockpile...

...weapons and ammo. It's nuts!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

37. "We mock what we don't understand." Austin Millbarge 1985

[polichick]

39. Yes, you certainly do. :)

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

40. Likewise.

:toast:

[SPedigrees]

44. It's not the fact that he's a gun owner. I'm a gun owner.

It was his campaigning for McCain that convinced me he's brain damaged.

[rl6214]

45. Didn't know he campaigned for Mccain

So go after his political affiliations, not the man personally, that's just juvenile.

I will vehemently oppose someone I do not agree with but I will not go after someone personally.

[SPedigrees]

52. How am I "going after him?"

I consider anyone who supported McCain and Palin brain damaged. Sorry but that's how it is.

[tridim]

3. Obama understands small town America better than most small town Americans.

That's the problem Hankie.

Teabagging day was the proof.

[jody]

4. You are a real comedian with "Obama understands small town America". n/t

[tridim]

8. How so?

His statement during the primaries tells me he knows what he's talking about.

They do cling to their guns and religion. Just look at a random sampling of teabagger signs.

[NewMoonTherian]

10. I've always been confused about this quote.

How are we defining "clinging" and why is there such a negative connotation attached to it?

My faith is my number one priority. Guns have been a part of my lifestyle as long as I can remember.

[polichick]

12. imo "clinging" involves a bit of irrational obsession.

[rl6214]

17. Would you "cling" to a child

Maybe a parent? Maybe a personal belief, especially in a possibly hopeless situation?

[polichick]

18. imo "clinging" to a child isn't healthy unless you're trying to keep him or her...

...from running into the road or something.

The second part makes the point Obama was suggesting imo ~ people "cling" in hopeless/scary situations. I would say there is some irrational obsessiveness going on then.

[rl6214]

20. You are talking about a HUGE part of the population then

"The second part makes the point Obama was suggesting imo ~ people "cling" in hopeless/scary situations. I would say there is some irrational obsessiveness going on then."

They may not say they "cling" to something but anyone that has their favorite piece of clothing, favorite hat, attend a church regularly, need to call their significant other daily or multiple times daily. Don't want to change jobs because they are unsure of what might happen. They are all clinging to something.

[polichick]

21. Obama wasn't talking about ALL gun owners, just the clingers. So what??

[rl6214]

23. "clinging" involves a bit of irrational obsession.

General statement. You didn't say Obama, guns or religion, you threw a generalize statement out there.

[polichick]

24. You do know how "replies" to previous posts work, right??

If you lose that giant "gun owner's chip" you've got on your shoulder, you'll probably figure it out.

[Caliman73]

50. It amazes me how people misconstrue that speech.

His statement in the primaries was meant to describe potentially an attitude in rural America. It can also describe anti immigrant and anti trade sentiment in the inner cities, without the reference to guns and religion. Typically the rural areas of the country have a tradition of gun ownership for hunting and self defense since services such as grocery stores and a large police force have not replaced the people's need to feed themselves and provide for their security needs. There is typically more of a sense of independence in those areas. What Obama was saying was that given the state of poverty in rural America and the empty promises of renewal and assistance given by the past several administrations it is understandable that people in those communities would be angry, resentful, and more willing to vote for a candidate that would purport to defend their most important issues their religious beliefs which guide their lives, and the guns which provide them food and protect their lives. People think incorrectly, that he was insulting rural Americans and though his comments were overly simplistic, they were attempting to describe how a mistrust of government and a trend toward self reliance came to be. Instead people who are pro-firearms tend to see it as how Obama is out of touch and anti-firearms people use it as a way to support their own backwards prejudices.

Instead of continually beating each other over the head with insults over one issue, we need to focus on the real causes of violence in this country: Poverty, greed, desperation, resentment, and a disconnect by people from one another. Guns are dangerous tools with the potential to cause great damage but they are not evil and they DO NOT CAUSE violence. They have been used to defend life and freedom and they have been used to take them away, but in each of those uses the most important ingredients have been the individual and the society that influenced and motivated that individual to act with that firearm. Alone, a firearm is just metal, plastic, and wood. In the hands of the wrong person it becomes a tool of destruction. In the hands of the right person it is a defensive tool. We need to focus on creating and sustaining an environment that minimizes the development of people who would use firearms for ill.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

28. Yeah the rich are really good at understanding small town America.

[Howardx]

5. obama's anti gun plan is working perfectly

let them buy all the guns they want while quietly slowing the production of ammo, brilliant!

[polichick]

9. Now that would be brilliant, but somehow I doubt there's a plan about that.

[Howardx]

16. nope

theres no plan at all. i never heard of a plan.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

29. How exactly would he slow production of ammo?

My reloader puts out 1000 rounds an hour. I guess he could send someone to break my arm.

David

[Howardx]

31. im sure someone finds that very manly

the guys at the gun shop maybe...

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

32. A lot more cost efficient, you shouldn't look down on women so much.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

33. How exactly would he slow production of ammo?

[yay]

46. WOW.......

What kinda press do you have? Some fancy progressive one?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

62. Yes a high end Dillon progressive.

One of the advantages of being married to a Doctor.

David

[DefenseLawyer]

6. Um, did I miss Hank jr's humble small town beginnings somewhere?

Son of the biggest star of his era, who began performing himself at age 8 and has essentially been a celebrity his entire life. Typical small town boy.

[tortoise1956]

42. Whoa, Red Rider...

Hank Williams Sr. died less than 5 years after his first number 1 hit. While Junior was not destitute, he was not brought up in the lap of luxury either. I think he has a better understanding of how real people live than you give him credit for. He's also not afraid to help others. If you check him out, you'll find he donated $125 grand to a Hurricane Katrina effort in Biloxi, MS. I wonder how many of our rich politicians and celebrities can say that.

Now, for the reloading part - I guess you can call me a gun nut too. I am buying the tools and materials to load my own ammo. I have no confidence in either side of the political spectrum, since both parties have demonstrated a willingness to ignore the constitution if it suits them. I spent twenty years in uniform, both active and reserve, defending my country. All I want now is to have my right to self-defense not be taken away.

Is that too much to ask?

[polichick]

47. imo insisting that the right to self defense includes access to assault weapons is too much...

That said, do you really imagine a scenario where you're taking on the government??

[rl6214]

48. Is this an assault weapon?

[paulsby]

53. what makes insisting on "assault weapons"

worse that insisting on garden variety rifles, which make up less than 3% of the homicides fwiw - all long guns.

here's a hint. the difference between "assault weapons" and your garden variety deer rifle is COSMETIC and many so called assault weapons are much less powerful/deadly than the non-banned rifles.

[jeepnstein]

69. Sure I can.

Can you imagine a scenario where the government would drop bombs on you to facilitate a labor negotiation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

[DefenseLawyer]

56. I didn't say he was rich, I said he was a celebrity.

Relax chief, I don't want your SKS.

[Cheap_Trick]

7. boo fucking hoo

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

30. Who was crying?

[rl6214]

35. Just typical gun grabber

bitching, whining and moaning because they don't have anything substantial to bring to the discussion.

[Name removed]

57. Deleted message

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[X_Digger]

58. Wait, wouldn't that last bit require being -ahem- well endowed? Can't have it both ways. n/t

[Cheap_Trick]

59. Not if he cuts it off first.......

:rofl:

[X_Digger]

60. Freud would love you..

Are you repressed, hating yourself? Sexually frustrated? Or just fixated on people's genitalia?

[Cheap_Trick]

61. Oh goody..a pop psych major.

:eyes:Spare me your dime-store psychoanalysis.

[rl6214]

67. Ah

What a class act.

[yay]

43. So far all I've got out of this thread...

.. is a bunch of people bashing other people for their lifestyle choices....

Real "progressive" don't you think?

[Caliman73]

51. I agree with you.

I support the right to own and carry firearms but I try to see what the other side is saying and if there is a way to address the issue constructively. Although I may get heated when I think the arguments are getting personal and attacking, I understand people's need to feel safe. I just disagree about what is causing the danger and how to address it. The name calling on both sides is counter productive. Let's talk about crime, violence, poverty, mental health, and keeping guns out of the hands of people who have no respect for the law or other people.

[Hoopla Phil]

49. I read on a gun forum a post from someone claiming to have

called Winchester and Remington about ammo production. According to him Winchester is running 24/7 on producing ammo. Remington though has kept their normal production schedule of 9-5 M-F.

[yay]

54. Wish remington was 24/7...

Remington UMC is good, dirty, but good and cheap.

[RamboLiberal]

55. According to this from last month Remington is working overtime

Here are a few comments from Remington - specifically from John Chisnall, Director - Brand Management, Ammunition.

“Strong 2008 4th quarter hunting seasons and “putting food on the table” in these difficult economic times have driven some of the strong demand being experienced in hunting ammunition categories.

“Regarding supply, our factory is working overtime and doing the best they can to address the demand.

“With regards to pricing, costs have stabilized as commodity prices and energy prices have stabilized, and pricing has decreased in some categories despite strong shooter demand.”

That’s the official, on-the-record statement. We appreciate Mr. Chisnall taking time to address the issue.

http://gunservatively.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/the-ammo-shortage-situation/

Guess that's one place the American blue-collar is doing well and not worrying about being laid off.

[Ganja Ninja]

68. “We love our God, and we love our guns.”

And some times we have trouble deciding which we love most.