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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:16 PM Original message |
When did the lie that Obama was going to take guns away start and who started it? |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. I was thinking it started in the Gungeon .... |
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MrPerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. I started it. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. I think Dr. Colbert started it ... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
78. Obama started it. Years ago. In illinois. On Joyce Foundation Brd (nt) |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. I'm not trying to debate gun control. |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. We're not yet sure it's a lie. |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. If It Didn't Start Here, It's Sure Being Kept Alive Here.... |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. some horrible mccain commercial during the campaign I think. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Do you remember which one? Did it play nationally? Or just one state/region? n/t |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. no I forgot. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thank you anyway. I'm sure someone here remembers. n/t |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. it has been said about every |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I'm trying to find a link. n/t |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. It started when he ran for office with a (D) next to his name. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I'm trying to find a link. n/t |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. Cui bono? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Good point. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. The NRA can continue to justify its existence. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Good point and post #27 shows a link to one of their commercials. n/t |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM Original message |
Certainly not the average citizen |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. Frenzied is the word alright. n/t |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. When he registered as a Democrat, I guess. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:25 PM Original message |
I was hoping someone had a link. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
65. Utter nonsense |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. I was wondering where that came from too... |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. Probably started as one of those chain emails |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hi record makes it easy for the right to spin it that way. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Nonetheless, he never said he was going to take guns, someone else did. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. here's one link from 2008- but I also remember |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. They said the same thing about Clinton back when he was running against Bush 41 |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. True, but when did this particular lie begin. I know at least one DUer has a link. n/t |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
70. Except Clinton did |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. For some folks, everyone's planning to take their firearms |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. But this is a partciular lie that I'm asking about. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. at a gun store this weekend |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I remember when I heard it the first time. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Well, here's the obvious question someone should ask these lunatics |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Makes no sense to me either |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
21. It was well before the election |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Hmm. |
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Idealism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. Wait, he isn't coming to take them away?! |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. When Eric Holder - his AG - publicly supported anti gun laws slated for DC even after |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
27. I found it! |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. thanks for the link |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Damn! GunBanObama.com!? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Didn't help that his campaign and now the White House website |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Do you know when it started? n/t |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. It started with the party platform, then Obama's campaign website, then Whitehouse.gov, |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I don't think so. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’ Obama said. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Please provide a link to someone |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. Are we allowed to talk about this in GD again? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'm asking specifically for help finding when it started. |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
40. Don't know, but Alex Jones has a whole list.... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I searched snopes for "Obama take guns" and look what came up ... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Highly recommend you go to FactCheck.org . See my post below. (nt) |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
46. It sounds like it originated with the NRA during the election campaign. Someone posted a great piece |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Thank you. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You're welcome. I read that post and the editorial earlier today, and I knew it would answer |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
47. it's been said about every Democrat for years |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. YEP--the NRA has been doing this for years. |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. Considering that Obama controls the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. I have never heard it, myself. |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. 1996. He did. He let a staffer fill out a questionaire on Illinois handgun ban. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. From the repubs at the Brady Campaign, who have been saying |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. Not a lie. Here is his website. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Most of these misunderstandings have to do with problems of definition. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. It is an anti-2nd amendment assertion that a semi-auto rifle is an assault weapon. Lie. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Agreed, except that I don't think it's an anti-2nd amendment assertion; |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. The Brady campaign has said in their documents |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. By any body's definition an assault weapon is 1st and foremost a 'gun". |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
60. link to sept 08 info on factcheck - |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. Better, "When did the LIE THAT OBAMA WAS NOT GOING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY START and who started it?" n/t |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Spoken Like A True Pawn Of The Right-Wing Fear-Mongers n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Fact: Obama supports renewing AWB. Any statement that Obama does not support taking guns is a lie. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
71. When candidate Obama said he wanted to reauthorize the AWB --- weren't you paying attention at all. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I've been paying attention. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Interesting how your statement changed from OP to here.. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Where can I find the NRA making this statement? |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Do you have this NRA quote? Or is that a lie? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-07-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
77. Uh, Obama started the "lie" by calling for bans on semi-auto guns ... |
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