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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:03 PM Original message |
Are people who defend themselves with a firearm more likely to hurt others? |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. What's a CCW holder? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Concealed carry weapon |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. it boils down to individual responsability |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Depends on the CCW holder, or the firearm owner |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Also Depends on How Many Innocent Bystanders are Within Range |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The hope is that the CCW holder can know when to draw down |
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sir pball (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Hollowpoints |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have always heard that a person is more likely |
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HiDemGunOwner (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. The study you are probably thinking of is Kellerman |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Thank you for the info. n/t |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. On the face it looks pretty unlikely |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with the consensus, but what I think it boils down to is whether |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Wrong comparison though |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yikes! I remember hearing about that loon on the news. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Right, but.. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. some errors |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I suspect the counter-argument will be... |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I wasn't couinting CCWs, but people who just feel safer having a gun, but aren't trained. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. the problem with police |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well, that's unfortunate. We were taught to take guns very seriously, |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. thank you sir |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I doubt this very much. |
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HiDemGunOwner (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Let us look at the facts... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. "...accidental firearms-related fatalities remain at record lows,..." |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. wait |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Yes, according to this post |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. Not directly |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I was trained |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Interesting and informative... |
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HiDemGunOwner (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. In addition to "brandishing" a gun to prevent a crime |
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sir pball (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. While I'm usually very big on safety |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Right, but... |
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Big Al Mac (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. The data is somewhat old however, |
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HiDemGunOwner (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Good info...can you cite the source? |
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Big Al Mac (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. These facts have been in GunFacts for several editions. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Awesome info |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Thanks for the source link. n/t |
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HiDemGunOwner (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Great! Thank you. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Good data if you have a credible source, otherwise IMO an unsupported assertion. n/t |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. Less likely than police officers. (n/t) |
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sabre73 (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hey gorfle |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thanks, Sabre! |
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