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leanings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:17 PM
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Quick survey
Of the gun-control proponents and opponents here, how many are paying members of a gun-issue group? Be honest, remember your karma.

Disclosure: I am not, although I have been an NRA member and will probably be renewing my membership soon as it is a prerequisite for membership at the local range.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:47 PM
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1. I do...DU
Ducks Unlimited, that is. They are a conservation group: conservation of wetlands and gun rights/hunting privleges.

Brian
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:52 PM
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2. NRA
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 09:53 PM by solinvictus
I was an NRA member until they started caving at every turn and becoming selective about which gun owners they chose to represent. I am considering Gun Owner's of America as they SEEM to be more concerned with gun rights rather than simply maintaining their power.

On another note, Pink Pistols seems very consistent in their pro-gun views.
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leanings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:32 PM
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3. I can't edit this thread
but the only reason I ask is that I've never met a real, live BradyCampaign or VPC member. I've met some MMM folks, but that was a function of working in DC. Supposedly there's only about 250,000 BradyCampaign nee HCI members. There's some pretty strongly held opinions in this forum, and I'd just like to see who's putting their money where their mouth is.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:34 AM
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7. Where did you hear there are 250k members for the BC?
I have never seen them post their #'s and I think it is to save them the embarassement of realizing how out of touch with the US they are.
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 11:06 PM
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4. local groups only
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 11:11 PM by Romulus
the NRA leadership always seems to be doing something stupid unrelated to firearms just when I think I can trust them.

My money goes to the Virginia Citizens Defense League.

When I move to MD next month, there are groups like the Maryland State Rifle & Pistol Association that will be getting checks.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:03 AM
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5. nobody asked me, I know
But heck, disclosure and all.

I'm not actually a "member" of anything, but I have given money in the past to the Canadian Coalition for Gun Control and my old Toyota van wore one of their supporter stickers.

http://www.guncontrol.ca/
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/about.htm

There's scads of information there for anyone interested. E.g.:

http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/ConstitutionalChallenge.html

And yeah, duh, the perspective from which the information about the constitutional challenge to the firearms registry is presented is "biased". The groups involved in the challenge to the legislation include (just in case anybody's looking for a group to join):

A number of shooting groups have also aligned themselves with the Alberta government <which is challenging the federal law>. These include: the Coalition of Responsible Firearm Owners and Sportsmen, which represents the following: Responsible Firearm Owners of Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario, National Firearm Association, Alberta Fish and Game Association, Alberta Arms and Cartridges Collectors and the Sporting Clubs of Niagara. The Law-Abiding Unregistered Firearm Owners (LUFA), which promotes non-compliance with the law, has also been granted intervenor status by the Supreme Court.

Something that advocates of stricter regulation of firearms in the US might want to remember:

While the Alberta Government claims that there is no "proof" that gun control works, the standard of "proof" it is demanding goes far beyond what is required for justice reforms. Dr. Neil Boyd, Criminology professor at Simon Fraser University argued that the detailed evaluation of the 1977 legislation provides stronger evidence of the effectiveness of gun control than is available to support on most other reforms. Dr. Martin Killias, criminologist, University of Lausanne, has suggested that demands for conclusive "proof" are often a strategy for delay.

The federal government is joined, in supporting the legislation, by the Alberta Council of Women's Shelters:

In its factum, the Alberta Council of Women’s Shelters submitted that roughly a third of domestic homicides involve firearms, and that in at least 70% of these incidents, the firearms used are long guns. It also argues that women experience guns and firearm possession differently than men - firearm owners are overwhelmingly male (86%) while over 75% of the victims of spousal homicide involving firearms are women. In addition, its evidence shows that firearms are also used to harm or intimidate women in the context of domestic violence.

... Alberta’s expert on domestic violence is Senator Anne Cools.

Senators in Canada are appointed, not elected. Cools, a black woman, is to women as Clarence Thomas is to black people. Is there an "oreo cookie" term for a woman-hating woman?

Yes, I know, you didn't ask. But I love to answer anyway!


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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:21 AM
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6. NRA and Second Amendment Foundation
NRA acts on federal legislation, and the 2A Foundation acts at the state level.

I agree with the original poster about anti gunners not joining anti gun organizations. THat is why the MMM went bankrupt, and the Bradys had a massive staff reduction a year or 2 ago.

Apparently, anti-gunners are too cheap to support there cause. If you don't believe me ask KMart how much their anti gun stance helped them.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:01 AM
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8. Nice to see gun nut ignorance and hysteria
in action...

Neither VPC nor HCI nor AGS seeks members as such...so no surprise none of you has met one.

If you guys ever get near an actual fact, DO send off a flare or something.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:00 AM
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9. This isn't about seeking members?
Gift Membership

Give a gift to someone you care about and help build a safer America. Buy a friend or family member a gift membership to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence or the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Your gift of $15 or more will entitle your friend or family member to a full year of benefits to either organization.

Full membership benefits include our quarterly newsletter, the Brady Report, voting rights in the Brady Campaign or Brady Center and our email alert, the Brady E-Action Response Network (B.E.A.R.).

Online gift membership will be processed and acknowledged within three business days.


go here to join Benchley (you do know HCI became the BC, right?):
http://www.bradycampaign.org/donate/gift.asp

or are you too cheap?

you can also join the Million Moron March
http://www.millionmommarch.org/donate/index.asp?f=j

But obviously words like "join" and "membership" have nothing to do with membership. Ahh, gun fearing hysteria...so entertaining :evilgrin:

you can donate to other anti gun organizations too. So why don't you tell us which ones you have donated $ to?
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Emoto Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:50 AM
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12. What a pantload!!
Go peddle that nonsense somewhere else.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:54 AM
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13. Tell us when the next
HCI convention is....

Do shoot off a flare if any gun nut gets near a fact.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:53 PM
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14. Shouldn't an HCI donor be able to tell us..
unless you are like the typical anti gunner and are way too cheap to put $ into a losing effort such as gun control.
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Just_Looking Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:17 PM
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16. Several
Life NRA
Life TSRA
SAF
GOA
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jhfenton Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:13 PM
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17. Pro-gun Memberships
Dues-Paying Member:
National Rifle Association
Gun Owners of America
Ohioans for Concealed Carry

I also support select pro-self-defense candidates -- including myself. It is crucial that we work to counter all the anti-self-defense wanna-be-authoritarians out there.
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mandan Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:29 PM
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18. You have to admit
the gun control groups do quite well considering their are only able to provide them with lip service!
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