Rebels Behead Father, Son in Indian Kashmir

[drdon326]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030806/wl_nm/kashmir_dc_1

Suspected Muslim rebels beheaded a father and son in Kashmir (news - web sites) on Wednesday, accusing them of helping Indian forces, police said.

Separatist violence has continued in the Himalayan region despite a recent thaw in ties between India and Pakistan who have fought two of their three wars over the area since 1947.

"Militants abducted and later beheaded Abdul Ahad Sheikh and his son," a police official said. The killings took place in Baramulla district in northern Kashmir.

Civilians are also often killed in clashes between the rebels and troops in the Muslim majority region, where more than 38,000 have died in an almost 14-year revolt against New Delhi's rule.

India accuses Pakistan of aiding the revolt, a charge Islamabad denies.

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nice peaceful people

[StandWatie]

1. you could have just left LGF's headline

Religion of Peace

[WheresWaldo]

2. every religious group has its outliers

are all catholics to be condemned for the actions of the IRA or scandals in the church? are all jews to be condemned for the actions of radical settlers? should all hindus be condemned because of the actions of fundamentalists in the Gujrat pogroms? Can any entire religion be judged and condemned as you have above based on the actions of a few?

comments like "religion of peace" and "nice peaceful people" are condescending and frankly un-enlightened. Its tragic to hear of such an unfortunate fate befall a man and his son in Kashmir. Yes, it is brutal and barbaric, but does not permit the passing of judgement indicated by comments such as the ones made above.

[Lady Freedom]

3. Will all...

This killing ever stop?

[drdon326]

4. uhhhh...

i dont care what religion.....people that behead a father and son

are NOT peaceful people.

[Aidoneus]

5. your sudden interest in Kashmir is noted

Is there also any interest in reports of the murders and other brutalities carried out by the Indian army? They are not difficult to find and are more representative of the situation there.

You seem quite content to paint with a broad brush about anybody that is not Jewish, but how much exactly do you know of the situation here, or want to? A discussion on the matter would be good, for it is not often brought up on any level greater than soundbytes.

[bemildred]

6. I think its the beheading, actually.

It's the only thing that stands out.

On a different note, given that you have a "suspected muslim rebel"
what is he suspected of? I'm guessing "rebel", but neither seems
likely to be unclear, and neither would seem to be a "crime" as such,
like "murderer" would be. But maybe "rebel" is a crime in Kashmir.

[Aidoneus]

7. more "nice peaceful people"

--snip--
<06-08-2003> The mufti of Karelia, the chairman of the Clerical Department of Muslims of Karelia Bardvil Visam Ali visited the city of Kondopoga where trashes of people “with non-slavic appearance” continue for several days. As the press-service of the CDM of Karelia reports to Islam.ru, “dozens of drunk so-called troopers attack people with non-slavic appearance with fists, axes and knives. There are casualties”. Such incidents are accompanied by inertness of the city police. The mufti of Karelia familiarized himself with the situation and held meetings with the local Muslims.
--snip--
http://eng.islam.ru/press/rus/2003-08-06/#1039

The point is:--unless your intent is just to gawk randomly at a group you already don't like, one cannot decently judge something from one event, and we get it that you don't like Muslims anywhere. Strip away enough context and everybody anywhere can look bad.

[bemildred]

8. "Non-slavic appearance"

Bell-bottoms?
A mullet?

Cool site, thanks, interesting translations,
but you can get the drift.


A canonical department was opened in the Muftijat of Inghushetia

<06-08-2003> The Muftijat of Inghushetia opened a canonical department. The mufti of Inghushetia
Magomed-hajji Albogachiyev announced that during the meeting of the Jeyrakhski district of the
republic, that took place last month. According to him, the department deals with the most difficult
questions of the spiritual life of the Muslims of Inghushetia.

As the press-service of the Clerical Department of the Muslims of Inghushetia reported to Islam.ru,
in his speech Magomed-hajji Albogachiyev told about the activities held to preserve and strengthen
peace in the republic, about spiritual-moral education of the youth, about countering extremist
ideology. He also noted that so far all cities and villages of the republic have their madrasahs. In
conclusion the mufti answered questions and noted that ?to achieve the well-being of the republic we
must first of all establish order directly in our homes and families?.

It is noteworthy that the decision to hold such meetings with population of various regions
Albogachiyev adopted during the forum of alims that took place in the Clerical center of the Muslims
of Inghushetia. The first meeting was held in spring in the Malghobekski region, where the mufti
also answered question of the residents.

[Violet_Crumble]

9. Excellent point...

The point is:--unless your intent is just to gawk randomly at a group you already don't like, one cannot decently judge something from one event, and we get it that you don't like Muslims anywhere. Strip away enough context and everybody anywhere can look bad.

I've come to enjoy this forum much more than the I/P one because the posts have been much more intelligent and lacking in the judging people just because they belong to a group that the poster doesn't like. Now the same crap I see constantly in the I/P forum is being transplanted here and this forum is taking a swift nose-dive into shallow, judgemental 'My Side Good. Yr Side Bad!!' nonsense. Thanks to drdon for keeping-on-keeping-on and showing the same consistancy he does in the I/P forum. Blech...

Violet...

[drdon326]

10. Aidoneus

youre wrong....I love all peoples and that of course
includes muslims. I hold ALL faiths in the highest respect.

What I dont like are murderers and terrorists.
and in this case i dont like people that
"behead" other people. Even you would agree thats
unbelieveably barbaric.

edit for spelling.

[bemildred]

11. Is this a good time to bring up the French?

On a lighter note:

"There can be only one." (Highlander)

Then there is "Conan the Barbarian" (singularly apropos today),
Ran (Akira Kurosawa) to name only a couple movies. And my own
ancestors, the Vikings, were not above a good extemporaneous
hacking now and then. But we have become squeamish these days.
We don't like any sticky residues from our violence.

I personally would prefer decapitation (assuming I had a bit
of time to prepare) to spending a couple weeks in a hospital
drugged to the gills with a ventilator rammed down my trachea,
at the expense of a couple hundred thousand dollars.

But opinions will vary.