I love Paul Wolfowitz

[keenfordean]

Paul Wolfowitz is wonderful. Just because we disagree about everything doesn't mean I can't admire him.

Especially since I'm convinced he's the key to taking down the Bush Presidency. Just wait until they throw him off the side. Then all hell will break loose.

Until then, I'll watch the congressional testimony in awe.

[Oracle]

1. Not going to hapen...

I've been reading on DU for the past couple of years that people were absolutely sure...abdsolutely positive it was going to be Rumsfeld who was going to bring down Bush, then it was Colin Powell, Richard Perle, Dick Cheney, the CIA, The FBI, the Men's room attendant at the White House...

It's not going to happen...Bush will be elected though Rove's fear campaign, and that will supersede any economic downfall…

It’s a Republican owned media…they get out exactly what they want to get out…and if something else leaks it might be out there for a moment and then the story is taken away with fluff and never heard about again…

There’s too much money being made everywhere…to not help these fascist to another term…stop kidding yourself with bullshit like Dean and Kerry etc…

[glarius]

2. There's something in what you say that sounds plausible...God I hope

you're wrong!....Four more years of this government and the whole world will be at war!!!!

[quilp]

3. It's more than "plausible". He's right. But we can't help hoping.

Things are going very wrong for Bush. Even his media can't keep on brushing all this dirt under the rug. The pile is getting too visible. But if you look the damage Bush has done in the last couple of years it's appalling to think of what he might do if the next election is as close as the last. On the other hand what if it is a landslide for him?

[Oracle]

4. YES! And that's exactly what will happen...

Being at war is a huge money maker...Bush already promised us that we will always be at war...fighting terrorist...not only does it make Halliburton, the Oil Companies, Weapons Makers, etc. and the corporate media richer beyond belief, (big viewing audience, when there's war...translates into big advertising dollars, the news outlets love war.))

War also keeps people in line...FEAR as Bush and Rove use so well, they know THAT EVERY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ELECTED WHEN OUR COUNTRY IS AT WAR!!! ALWAYS!!!!

Pay fucking attention...of couse we'll be at war...and with a 68% approval rating for Bush to boot... while our tax dollars and the poor of this country will be fighting these dastardly terrorist, for the patriotic, god fearing christians, freedom loving Americans, in the good old US of A FOREVER!

Wake up...fuck the fear...however, it won't be soon enough...Bush unfortunately will be elected by a landslide in 2004...there will be a war, a terrorist attack.... people are such sheep they will be too afraid to look beyond what the Republican Corporate Media will be feeding them and will vote...BUSH!!!!

Rove KNOWS this!

[dfitzsim]

5. It may be true that the incumbent president wins elections in times ...

... of war, but that's only because LBJ didn't run for a second term during the Vietnam war. The dems were very divided on the war issue in '67, and although LBJ would have arguably done better against Nixon than McGovern did, he probably would have gotten his butt kicked. The country did change the party in charge. We also changed the party in charge during the Korean war (Truman to Eisenhower).

The point is presidents and/or parties can lose when the war gets unpopular or seems pointless. This war is getting much more unpopular, much more quickly than Vietnam. The Gulf of Tokin wasn't being talked about as bogus in the media until long after the war had ended. WMD's and Nukes in Iraq already are being discussed as bogus.

I think Bush is vulnerable.

[LoneStarLiberal]

6. Bush Is Vulnerable...

...BUT...

There is always a "but" in situations like this one, particularly in the topic of Foreign Affairs/National Security. He is vulnerable but that vulnerability can lay out there for everyone to see and he can still be re-elected unless our party nominates someone who is going to take him on in precisely this arena. If the Democratic nominee cedes foreign affairs and national security to Bush, EVEN if the economy tanks (which isn't likely, although it's already rough as is) and the Prez keeps sticking his foot in his mouth at every opportunity, he will still win. I know that his father lost on the economy after Desert Storm, but this is a different situation that we are talking about here; nothing of interest happened on September 11, 1989. Something major happened on September 11, 2001, and Rove is going squeeze every last bit of mileage and leeway out of that moment for his boss that he can, and he is damned good at it.

It's not going to be enough for Democrats to fight on domestic issues; we have to fight on international issues as well. I have not heard a single candidate's platform on national security and foreign policy yet that can stand toe-to-toe with the rumpled mess our current President will tout. Because of the perception of Democrats as weak on security (I know it's not historically correct, but neither is the idea of Iraqis flying planes into the World Trade Center...you get the picture), any Democratic candidate has to have an even TIGHTER and CLEARER vision for FP than Bush, and none of them are up to snuff yet.

What the Democratic Party needs is a Karl Rove for whomever wins the nomination. We need to play hardball with these clowns. I don't want to see another noble defeat; that does sweet fuck all for our country. I want victory, and we need to play hardball politics to get it.

[teryang]

8. I think Kerry, Dean, and Clark

...could all shame the dim son on foreign policy issues in a debate. The problem really isn't the candidates. It's the media and the public.

At any rate while all the profiteering goes on with war, there is the risk of military failure. Sooner or later one way or the other, we will be driven from Iraq. There are other military miscalculations that may occur elsewhere. However, diasters which will utimate force the BFEE and the neocons out may not occur in time for the 2004 election. Just speculation.

[LeftistGorilla]

7. That dude has a big mouth....

and it may help bring the Bush regime down...