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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:19 PM
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Viva Zapatero, Handal, Aristide, Chavez, Kirchner, Fidel!!!
I would like to publicly show my support for any government that commits to removing their troops from the "coalition of the coerced". I would like to see every non-U.S. troop out of Iraq – to show how naked the emperor really is!

I feel that it's very important the we act as Citizens of the World, not just shills for the new american "empire". We owe our allegiance to all the peoples of the world not just the evil oligarchy that owns the U.S. Govt. and determines their policies for them.

Viva Zapatero (Spain)! Viva Hándal (may he be the next president of El Salvador)! Viva Kwasniewski (Polish Pres., if they remove their troops)! Viva Aristide! Viva Chavez! Viva Fidel! Viva Kirchner (Argentina)!

Anyone who stands against the empire is an ally of mine!!

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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:30 AM
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1. I doubt very seriously
that Kirchner, Zapatero and Kwasniewski much appreciate being lumped together with Aristide, Chavez and Castro.
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Sanity Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:18 PM
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8. I totally agree
n/t
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:32 PM
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9. Nothing wrong with Aristide and Chavez
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:48 PM
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2. Socialists..
The zombies who won the Spanish election.

Despite what you may have heard, socialism isn't dead. It's undead, a zombie that still roams the earth uncertain what to do with itself since its demise. It was sighted again this week, somewhere on the Iberian Peninsula, though some observers dismissed the reports. Sure, a group named the Socialist Workers Party won the elections in Spain, and a Socialist named José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero is slated to become the country's next prime minister. But it says something about the state of small-"s" socialism—in addition to the state of the world—that conservatives are attacking Zapatero for his response to terrorism, not his attitude toward capitalism.

Granted, the war in Iraq and the war against al-Qaida are the whole reason the world has been watching Spain so closely for the past week. But there's another reason for the conservative silence about Zapatero's economics: The socialist debate over what to do about capitalism—and the proletariat, and the theory of surplus value, and the ownership of the means of production—is largely over in Europe. If the old libel against American liberals is that they're socialists, the new European libel against socialists is that they're liberals—classical ones. Here are some of the economic promises on which Zapatero's Socialist Workers Party campaigned: lowering the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 30 percent, cutting income taxes, and reducing the value-added tax. Oh, and they're going to balance the budget and control inflation. The man expected to be the Socialist finance minister, Miguel Sebastian, is a U.S.-educated economist with a Ph.D. from the University of Minnesota. He's promising to put his faith in the Invisible Hand. "There will be a strict separation between politics and business," he told the Financial Times. "We will be a market-friendly government." These are socialists?

They're what's left of them. The 43-year-old Zapatero took the helm of the Socialist Workers Party in 2000, in the wake of a disastrous election for the party. That year, the Socialists allied themselves with the Communists, known as the United Left, but for the first time since Franco's death in 1975, the Socialists and the United Left together did not win a majority of Spanish votes. In the wake of that defeat, Zapatero pledged to follow a "Nueva Via," or New Way, rhetorically aligning himself with the "New Democrats" of Bill Clinton, the "Third Way" of Tony Blair, and the "New Middle" of Gerhard Schröder. He would navigate between market fundamentalism and state socialism. The clear message: The era of big socialism is over.

...

But Zapatero, Blair, and Schröder are taking this a step further: They're dropping much of the socialist project of economic interventionism. The vestige of socialism they cling to is the commitment to a strong social safety net that can balance the inequities of unbridled capitalism. Schröder may be going the furthest: He's trying to cut Germany's welfare state in order to save it. (Americans might be amused that some Germans are outraged because they now pay $12.40 each time they visit the doctor.) Zapatero's shift toward market economics is understandable: He has to live up to the stellar performance of his predecessor. As the Wall Street Journal Europe noted this week, during José Maria Aznar's eight years as Spain's prime minister, unemployment dropped from 20 percent to 11 percent, and the country created 40 percent of the European Union's new jobs, 4.2 million of them. During the Socialists' 20-year reign from 1976 to 1996, the country's job growth netted out at zero.

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http://slate.msn.com/id/2097360/
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:52 PM
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4. Ah, yes.
I'd already seen this crap...

Slate, the unbiased source.

A hit piece based on capitalist lies if I ever read one.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:08 PM
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6. I'm with you.
We didn't get El Salvador. But hopefully Spain can help to provide some counter balance to Bushco as far as Latin America is concerned.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:20 AM
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7. My solidarity
goes out to progressives everywhere, as always. Death to fascism, freedom to the people!

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