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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:41 PM
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Bangladesh Watches In Horror As Nation Gives Way To Sea
Edited on Sun May-06-07 08:16 AM by newyawker99
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0705010817may02,1,7033000.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

The first refugees of global warming
Bangladesh watches in horror as much of the nation gives way to sea

By Laurie Goering
Tribune foreign correspondent
Published May 2, 2007


ANTARPARA, Bangladesh -- Muhammad Ali, a wiry 65-year-old, has never driven a car, run an air conditioner or done much of anything that produces greenhouse gases. But on a warming planet, he is on the verge of becoming a climate refugee. In the past 10 years the farmer has had to tear down and move his tin-and-bamboo house five times to escape the encroaching waters of the huge Jamuna River, swollen by severe monsoons that scientists believe are caused by global warming and greater glacier melt in the Himalayas. Now the last of his land is gone, and Ali squats on a precarious piece of government-owned riverbank -- the only ground available -- knowing the river probably will take that as well once the monsoons start this month."Where we are standing, in five days it will be gone," he predicts. "Our future thinking is that if this problem is not taken care of, we will be swept away."

Bangladesh, which has 140 million people packed into an area a little smaller than Illinois, is one of the most vulnerable places to climate change. As the sea level slowly rises, this nation that is little more than a series of low-lying delta islands amid some of Asia's mightiest rivers -- the Ganges, Jamuna-Brahmaputra and Meghna -- is seeing saltwater creep into its coastal soils and drinking water. Farmers near the Bay of Bengal who once grew rice now are raising shrimp. Notorious for its deadly cyclones, Bangladesh is likely to face increasingly violent storms as the weather warms and see surging seas carry saltwater farther and farther up the country's rivers, ruining soils, according to scientists.

On Bangladesh's southern coast, erosion driven in part by accelerating glacier melt and unusually intense rains already has scoured away half of Bhola Island, which once covered an area nearly 20 times the size of Chicago. Land disputes, many driven by erosion, now account for 77 percent of Bangladesh's legal suits. In the dry northwest of the country, droughts are getting more severe. And if sea level rises by 3 feet by the turn of the century, as some scientists predict, a fifth of the country will disappear.

"Bangladesh is nature's laboratory on disaster management," said Ainun Nishat, Bangladesh representative of the World Conservation Union and a government adviser on climate change. As temperatures rise and more severe weather takes hold worldwide, "this is one of the countries that is going to face the music most," he said. Bangladesh is hardly the only low-lying nation facing tough times as the world warms. But scientists say it in many ways represents climate change's "perfect storm" of challenges because it is extremely poor, extremely populated and extremely susceptible. "One island here has more people than all of the small island states put together," said Atiq Rahman, executive director of the Bangladesh Center for Advanced Studies and a top national climate change expert.

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Bangladesh's capital today is home to a growing sea of landless rural migrants like Jaha Nura Begum, 35, who lives in a rickety bamboo hut perched on stilts over a fetid backwater of the Turag River. Her family and 20 others fled Bhola Island three years ago when "the river took all our land, and there was nothing," she said. Now her husband breaks bricks as a day laborer at a nearby kiln and "we only eat if we can find work." With climate migrants accounting for at least a third and perhaps as many as two-thirds of rural dwellers flooding to Dhaka, even that work is hard to get. "As more and more come, it is more chaotic here," Begum said.

Bangladesh's government is doing what it can to prepare for coming hard times. With the help of non-profit organizations, it is testing new salt-resistant crops, building thousands of raised shelters to protect those in the path of cyclones and trying to elevate roads and bridges above rising rivers. Leaders who once insisted that the West created the problem and should clean it up "now accept we should prepare," Nishat said. The alternative could be ugly: insufficient food, a destabilized government, internal strife that could spread past the country's borders, a massive exodus of climate refugees and more extremism, Rahman said.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 12:07 AM
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1. It's gonna get a lot worse.
And the threat of climate refugees is sufficient that I expect India will encourage them to die.

It's nice that we're feeling sad about coastal calamities abroad. Are we sure the people of Kansas will welcome the refugees from New York, New England, Virginia, the Carolinas, Florida, Louisiana, Texas...
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 12:56 AM
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2. Grapes of Wrath, 21st Century style.
In some places citizens from the low coastal lands and dust bowls will be the new "illegal aliens."


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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:18 AM
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7. I feel sad about all of it
And see many wars coming because of this happening.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:48 AM
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9. Well look at the bright side...
...at least they don't have to worry about so called "nuclear waste."

I think it's far more important to worry about some farmer who may get cancer from Yucca Mountain in the 35th century than these people.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:26 AM
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10. Well that is a bright side actually
as nuclear power is wasteful as well as TOXIC.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 11:17 PM
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14. Um, can you produce a case of toxicity that has led to a loss of life?
Because if you can't, and I know you can't - I would like to submit your appeal to doing nothing is about to kill one hundred million people.

Maybe you can produce 100 million people killed by so called "nuclear waste.'

It is so typical, very typical, characteristic, and telling to see antinuclear frauds take exactly this tack. Let me tell you something lady, everybody who dies in Bangladesh from climate change will be laid on the heads of those who did nothint about coal.

You still want to pretend that <em>only</em> nuclear energy be perfect and in so doing you elevate your fear above the very lives of hundreds of millions of persons.

There is no such thing as risk free energy. There is only risk minimized energy. And that energy is nuclear energy.

I hold the whole set of antinuclear mystics and charlatans responsible for these events.

Spare me your phony tears. You don't give a shit about these people. You're not even close.

For the record, Bangladesh has announced its intention to build nuclear reactors:

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=369904&sid=SAS

In Bangladesh, they're hardly interested in what a bunch of middle class brats think. They're trying to save their own lives.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:27 AM
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15. I think you need help
Your responses here are always so rude and downrght nasty. Not agreeing about nuclear power does not mean the person does not want to do anything. And who the hell are you calling a middle class brat? Again, I think you need help for your obvious obsession with nuclear power. Do you make money from it or something? Again, NUCLEAR AND COAL are sources of power that I do NOT WANT and CONDEMN, and that is my prerogative to do here and i will continue to do that. I then suggest you find someone else to carp at.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:43 PM
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16. I have not said you can't say what you want.
Edited on Mon May-07-07 12:43 PM by NNadir
I have merely pointed out that what you want is immoral and wrong.

Your obsession with misrepresenting nuclear energy is dangerous to all of humanity.

It is very, very, very middle class brat-like to stomp your feet and say "This is what I want."

I don't like you because of what you want because what you want is threatening the lives of every single person in Bangladesh. What you want is leading to the poisoning of my children. What you want is to perpetuate a fatal status quo and then - and here is the really rich part - represent that you care.

You don't care about the people of Bangladesh, because you offer no realistic solution, only blubbery platitudes.

I don't care how much you whine, it is my perogative to confront what you say.

You blather, "nuclear is toxic," and you want that to be the last word. That statement is so vague and so weak that it needs to be confronted. Antinuclear blather repeated without confrontation has lead to the loss of millions of lives. Tough shit if you don't like me confronting it.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:33 PM
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17. Why denigrate those that have a differing opinion?
YOur opinion that nukular energy is the savior for all mankind is flawed. What we need to do is a manhattan style project to capitalize on wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, and other forms of non-polluting energy. With no radioactive "timebombs" buried in Yucca mountain waiting to "blow up" on some unsuspecting future generation. And above all else, mankind needs to serously slash his/her energy consumption to minimal amounts.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:51 PM
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18. Most of the people dying are already using "minimal amounts" of energy.
Edited on Mon May-07-07 04:52 PM by hunter
Tidal power is a hideously destructive form of energy, and out to be banned. But of course rising sea levels could make that a moot point.

What we really need is for affluent people to look in the mirror and see the monster.

Most everyone else on this earth is simply struggling to get by and they don't do a fraction of the damage to the earth as some guy driving a Prius and making up nonsense about nuclear energy.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:25 AM
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19. How is tidal energy destructive?
I admit I'm pretty ignorant on the subject, but have always heard second hand that it was clean, renewable energy.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:53 PM
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20. All hydroelectric power is destructive...
Shoreline and riparian environments are severely damaged or destroyed by hydroelectric projects of any kind.

The plants and animals that live in these environments are very sensitive to changes in water flows, sediment transport, and nutrient levels.

Capturing energy from these environments is not without cost.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 01:04 AM
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3. Global warming is here
The bushbots need to accept it. Their children and grandchildren will also suffer its affects.

So far, the GOP has only said that we can't afford to address global warming. Not too great of news for our kids and grandkids, is it?
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Ravi Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 02:58 AM
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4. India Accepted millions immigrants from Bangladesh
India is more generous country than america it has accepted millions of bangladesh citizens as refugees having its own problems like poverty and what west has done is occupied all the land in the world and now destroying this world by emitting these gases. let me tell you india is millions times generous than america accepting refugees.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 04:32 AM
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5. And this will apply to the entire Bengali coast, including Calcutta,
right, Ravi?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:29 AM
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11. What happens should they look to come here?
Afterall, this country ( among others to not as great an extent) was responsible for contributing to the destruction of their homes. Do we not owe them anything for that? Environmental reparations?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 12:11 PM
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12. The Indian government
has just announced that they will accept no more Climate Change refugees from Bangladesh. I don't have a link, but the story was in the news this past week.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:33 PM
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13. Are we truly ready for this on a larger scale?
I really think we need a global summit to discuss the issue of population rise in the developing world in the next few years and corrolate that to the effects of climate change. It is inconscienable that we are causing this and our government is also pulling the strings behind the World Bank in considering stopping funds going to these nations in regards to family planning.
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 05:12 AM
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6. silt deposit issues
if the river(s) is controlled,
the delta is history
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 08:20 AM
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8. Sorry moderators...
However, I have seen entire articles posted many times before so I did not realize it was against any rules, and actually tried my best to keep it down. I will try to remember that in the future.
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