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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:57 PM
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Solyndra's Exit: China Not To Blame
Solyndra's Exit: China Not To Blame
By Barry Cinnamon, CEO, Westinghouse Solar
August 31, 2011


The epitaph for Solyndra is significant because of what was not a factor in their demise. It was certainly not for a lack of trying. But more importantly, it was not because of Chinese competition or a lack of U.S. government support.

Chinese solar panels are 10-20 percent less expensive than U.S.-made panels; but by some estimates, Solyndra's panels were 100 percentmore. It's a mistake to blame Solyndra's problems on our lack of manufacturing commitment or relatively higher labor costs compared to China. Solar panels are commodities being sold on the worldwide market on a $/watt basis much as aluminum is sold on a $/kg basis. It is crystal clear that cheap and easy to install solar panels are exactly what the U.S. needs to reduce our energy costs and create installation jobs.

For five years or more, the U.S. government was providing support for solar manufacturing in the U.S. The DOE Loan Guarantee program provided critical funding for Solyndra's manufacturing growth, supported by over $1 billion in private capital. Unfortunately, both these private investors and the DOE made a couple of bets on Solyndra that didn't pan out.

The first bad bet was that refined silicon, the feedstock for the solar panel industry, would stay expensive. Solyndra invented a solar panel that didn?t use expensive silicon. Unfortunately for Solyndra, and fortunately for all the silicon solar panel manufacturers and customers, silicon has gotten very cheap over the past few years. So, the problem that Solyndra solved: expensive silicon disappeared.

The second bad bet was that Solyndra's flat roof installation technology would make up for their relatively expensive...

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/08/solyndras-exit-china-not-to-blame?cmpid=SolarNL-Wednesday-August31-2011
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:39 PM
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1. I've toured the Fremont Solyndra Plant. Solyndra modules are like none other in the world.
Their modules utilize glass tubes inside glass tubes, these are made in Germany, IIRC.

The four-element deposition process applied to the inner tube is, I'm told, a technological breakthrough.

The Rolls-Royce level quality of their manufacture puts them in an entirely different world from traditional flat modules.

And I think their installation process that doesn't require use of physical fasteners is a fabulous improvement.

The down side is that they really depend upon a highly reflective background to produce maximum energy.

I've got four 200-watt modules and all the mounting and connectivity hardware awaiting installation for testing.

:hi:

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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:42 AM
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2. Very true.
I think the advantage they have that will persevere is the tubular design as a factor in reducing installation costs. Have you ever read Kon Tiki? That's a practical demonstration of what enable the setup to be so easy and inexpensive to install.

You should turn what you have into a semi-portable unit to power some dedicated office appliances such as a desk lamp, coffeemaker and refrigerator. As a unit it would make a great conversation piece.
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