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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 07:57 PM
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Arnie Gundersen Aug 4 update: Lethal Levels of Radiation at Fukushima: What Are the Implications?
http://www.fairewinds.com/content/lethal-levels-radiation-fukushima-what-are-implications

(video)

TEPCO has discovered locations on the Fukushima plant site with lethal levels of external gamma radiation. Fairewinds takes a close look at how this radiation might have been deposited and how similar radioactive material would have been released offsite.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:09 PM
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1. Why would anyone believe this guy after everything he's predicted has been proven wrong?
It's not like he's a nuclear expert. He's a business executive who does this for money.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:16 PM
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2. He hasn't gotten enough exposure lately.
Anything that might make the news will benefit from his special sauce.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:22 PM
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3. He is a nuclear expert. nt
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:50 PM
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11. Not really.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:51 PM by FBaggins
He's a shill who sacrificed what little credibility he had years ago.

And he's been wrong over and over and over on this one.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:54 PM
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12. Wrong, but shills will keep trying to damage his reputation. nt
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:55 PM by bananas
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:27 PM
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14. You are talking about youself when you call someone a shill, right
You've been wrong on this from day one and you know it. How you can keep showing your ass/face is beyond me.
You told me that you were only here to correct someone when they're wrong and so I've been reading and paying close attention since and you know what, that was a lie you told me. I've yet to see anyone be so wrong so many times in my life. sorry but I have to call it how I see it. :hi:
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:58 PM
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17. "been wrong over and over and over on this one."

I'm confused.

Is this self-parody?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:26 PM
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5. Anti-science pro-nukes hate whistleblowers. nt
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:33 PM
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15. They hate anyone who dares to stand up to them
I seen it years ago and I'm still seeing it today. The last thing we needed then was nuclear powered power stations and the last thing we need today is the same.
We've lost 60 years by letting the nuclear industry lie to us, years that could have been working on making sure we didn't find ourselves where we find ourselves today, killing our planet with co2. They lied to us back then at every turn and they're lying to us today at every turn. Enough is enough. Their experiment failed and failed big time. I'll be surprised if a large part of Japan isn't cordoned off with no humans allowed before this is all said and done.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:24 PM
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4. He is a nuclear expert, and he's been extremely accurate. nt
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:24 PM by bananas
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:31 PM
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6. Senate testimony by NRC Chairman: "Everything Mr. Gundersen said was absolutely right"
Senate testimony by NRC Chairman: "Everything Mr. Gundersen said was absolutely right"

Arnie Gundersen has an excellent reputation.

In a 1993 congressional hearing,
in response to a question by Committee Chairman Senator John Glenn,
NRC Chairman Ivan Selin testified:
"Everything Mr. Gundersen said was absolutely right; he performed quite a service"

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=254089&mesg_id=254169

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:57 PM
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13. We need more Democrats like John Glenn.
We also need more scientists like Dr. Gundersen.

Thanks for the heads-up, bananas!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:44 PM
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16. Absolutely agree.
Thanks for chiming in!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:33 PM
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7. Paying The Price For Blowing The Whistle
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/12/nyregion/paying-the-price-for-blowing-the-whistle.html?pagewanted=all

Paying The Price For Blowing The Whistle
By Julie Miller
Published: February 12, 1995

FOR three years, Arnold Gundersen was awakened by harassing phone calls in the middle of the night. He became so concerned about his family's safety that he bought a large dog for protection. The problem? He was a whistle-blower, one of those who take on the dismally unpopular role of exposing what they find to be unsafe or unlawful practices in the workplace, especially the nuclear workplace.

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Mr. Gundersen, who lives in Warren, told of the day in 1990 when he discovered radioactive material in an accounting safe at Nuclear Energy Services in Danbury, the consulting firm where he held a $120,000-a-year job as senior vice president. Three weeks after he notified the company president of what he believed to be radiation safety violations, Mr. Gundersen said, he was fired.

He is fighting a $1.5 million lawsuit filed against him by his former employer for continuing to discuss the alleged safety violations publicly after agreeing to an out-of-court settlement. Mr. Gundersen said he believes he was blacklisted, citing an April 22, 1991, letter concerning him that the company sent to 78 people. He also says he was harassed and fired for doing what he thought was right.

Mr. Gundersen's case, according to a number of whistle-blowers and others interviewed, is not uncommon, especially in the nuclear industry. Even though nuclear workers are encouraged to report potential safety hazards, those who decide to do so say that they risk demotion and dismissal. Instead of correcting the problems, whistle-blowers and their supporters say, industry management and government forces attack them as the cause of the problem.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:35 PM
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8. "What Arnie Gundersen Says About Yankee Eventually Becomes Truth About Yankee"
From one of his neighbors in 2007:
http://vermontdailybriefing.com/?p=663

June 12th, 2007

What Arnie Gundersen Says About Yankee Eventually Becomes Truth About Yankee
by Philip Baruth

<snip>

On the Vermont Yankee issue, I got religion in the North and I got religion in the South: Arnie Gundersen, my neighbor in Burlington’s New North End, and Steve West and Gorty Baldwin, WKVT radio hosts in Brattleboro, all began schooling me in the issues and the various dangers.

But today, let’s take Arnie’s story

Arnie was an executive in the nuclear industry, back in the late ’80’s, but in 1990 he came forward as a whistleblower and was fired the same year. Over the next several years, his case got a great deal of attention, and he testified before Congress during hearings on ways to protect whistleblowers.

Fast-forward to 2007. Arnie is now a prominent nuclear safety expert witness. And he’s also a longtime reader of this site.

<snip>

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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:44 PM
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9. What are you blabbering to yourself now? n/t
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:46 PM
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10. Those are replies to the first reply.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:48 PM by bananas
Maybe you have him on ignore, can't see his post, and think I'm replying to myself.
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