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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:16 AM Original message |
Tornado Cuts Power to Surry Nuclear Plant (Virginia) |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nuclear power plant which generates electricity loses power? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. When a nuclear power plant loses the load, there is no choice but to shut down |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That sounds like a classic Rube Goldberg machine. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. No kris, it's because you don't understand or refuse to understand why they do the things they do |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. kris has it right - these are Rube Goldberg devices |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Deleted message |
bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Reactors are required to shut down when a hurricane approaches to prevent a Fukushima |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Reactor containment buildings are not designed to contain a meltdown |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. It shows an appalling ignorance of physics. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I don't think it's correct to imply an unloaded generator can't be run. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. A speculation |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Here's some info: |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I'm referring to the cumulative effect of a particular "culture of safety" |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. That goes to the central problem with safety. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It is a discussion we do not need to have. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. WHAT!?! They don't perform routine maintenance on the control room coffee maker!?! |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I don't know about Fukushima. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Many US reactors of later design (built in late 70s or early 80s) do have |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I think you mean.. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
45. Thinking about it |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. It is called loss of redudancy. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Thanks, Statistical. n/t |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Not a scram, an LCO action Statement |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. More bad physics... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Thanks, Pam. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. No, they are required to shut down by the NRC to prevent them from going Fukushima |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Correct |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Thanks for your post. |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I am not aware of any US Nuclear Plant that stays on-line |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Even if a US reactor COULD operate at minimum power NRC regulations prohibit it. |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Id say it would go to licensed design basis, |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Actually there are some that can handle it.... |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I don't see turbine repairs being done that way. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. And for good reason |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. The problem at Chernobyl was the Xenon Transient. |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Thanks, |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Thanks |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's only a matter of time before our next nuclear disaster. Let's hope it's not multiple plants |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Sure hope it isn't near me when it does |
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PamW (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. It doesn't have to mean a disaster.... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 06:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. IOW there are *designs* that are safer? |
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Fledermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. What if we were in the middle of the next "Spanish Flu" pandemic and there was a loss of power? |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Then I will die |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
25. Alternate Headline: Nuclear power plant safeguard systems perform as designed. nt |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You mean "Chernobyl level radiation releases are fission industry success story" ? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. So there's been a Chernobyl-level radiation release at Surry? |
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