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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 06:20 AM Original message |
A Wind Power Boonedoggle |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. Race to the bottom. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. That's why I like Tom Blees, he says that all energy should be nationalized. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Pesonally I'm fine with privatised supply. However infrastructure... |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Because profits matter |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You should check out Gasland and this guy who says he was screwed over by private gas companies. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wind power BLOWS. n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yup. Natural gas subsidies and exemptions need to be compared properly. (nt) |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. Oh great - an anti-renewable article by that right-winger Robert Bryce |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Is there anything in *this* article you do not believe is true? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. One myth about the Wall Street Journal: It still practices serious journalism |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. "The author of the op-ed is climate change denier and long time fossil fuel cheerleader Robert Bryce |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Is there anything untrue in the statements by the author? He omitted externalized natural gas... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Actually, it was the first hit for the Picken's move. I found nothing in the article that was untrue |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Only someone center-right would quote Bryce, who works for the right wing Manhattan Institute..." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Fine. Let's quote Forbes' Andrew Schenkel: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. How about this editorial: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Have a problem with the Mother Nature Network? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Fact. T. Boon is no longer considering wind for the United States. Fact. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. No - T. Boone Pickens Boondoggle - wind power works just fine |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. T. Boon thinks natural gas is better. And so do a lot of E&E posters. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Define "better" |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Economically, in an unregulated market. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Really? Can you name a single gas plant on this planet that has been shut by wind power? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Fuck fracking, seriously. I'd rather drink fucking tritium than the shit they put in our water. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wind Power is viable if energy storage is added - works in symbiosis with solar |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. A bit more is needed to complete the picture... |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. bad link |
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Kennah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. Fact check: Robert Bryce misleads with WSJ op-ed |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Did I not, personally, point out the subsidies for fossil fuel omission in my OP? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The key is that *economists* hate even *considering* externalized costs. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Economists do not "hate even considering externalized costs". |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You are right, it's conservative economists that hate externalized costs. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Unfortunately the world is run by these types of people. |
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