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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 10:42 PM Original message |
Chevy Volt's battery miles cost more than the gas ones |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good to point this out, as some seem to think/feel that elec car runs 'free.' |
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ishaneferguson (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fact Check - 16.27 cents/kwhr in Silicon Valley |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. With PG&E the more you use, the more it costs. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Also, with their smart metering, the people on the poorer plans are punished. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
55. How does smart metering punish poor people? |
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ishaneferguson (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Summer 2000 Brown Outs |
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RickFromMN (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. I thought my utility company was raising my electricity rate to $0.11 per kilowatt-hour |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Your math is correct, something isn't squaring here. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I saw a street legal golf cart for sale the other day |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. If you're going that route why not just get a small fossil fuel scooter. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But, but, but, teh fossil fuels are teh ebil. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Solution: |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Our little town of 1500 or so souls passed an ordinance allowing golf carts on our streets |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Deleted message |
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The take away from this is that cleaner energy is more expensive. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 02:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. No, the takeaway is that autoblog green is a rag with an agenda of some sort. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. The title of the blog post is not misleading. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 05:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The entire blog post is beyond misleading - it is as much a lie as when Fox does it. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yes they know better too |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. The OP is the norm for E&E controversial posts. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Wrong. With proper reading comprehension you can understand exactly what the blog is saying. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm at a loss |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Where the bloggers have their car? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. "But I know damn well that there's nothing incorrect in the blog article." |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. What's funny about it? The fact that this very thread supports the bloggers view? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. been so long since I read the article I can't remember if they said where they were at |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I think this article stinks too |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
16. We pay 9 cents kwh here in n.e. oklahoma |
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ishaneferguson (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
20. Cost In Dead Soldiers? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Soldiers/km |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I once postered a Hummer that was on display in a mall |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. . |
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Fledermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. Bad science |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
26. IF they paid $0.31 per kwh, then PV is mo' betta than grid parity in California |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. +1 |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 04:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. The average price per KWh in California is 16 cents. |
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Kennah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Something isn't right |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
29. We have some of the cheapest electricity and priciest gas in the nation here |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Same. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
35. I call bullshit. Nowhere in the US does electricity cost 31 cents per KWh. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. He must be thinking of Denmark, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #38 |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Stupid? What's your point, that electricity prices in Denmark aren't the highest in Europe? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. And didn't get Amory Lovins in that reply one time |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Or "the fucking Navajos" |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I remember that thread well |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. As posted above, it does. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Let me rephrase: your electricity does not cost 40 cents per KWh. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
39. With three nuke plants in our rate base, our electricity is 13.5 c/kW*hour |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Because coal is cheap. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. In 1981? eom |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'd like to know how they got their 31 cent electricity number. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. From their electric bill, I'm sure. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. The article on the OP is dishonest. |
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yop (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-10 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
56. Lot of misdirected outrage in this thread |
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