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Frangible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:31 AM Original message |
Groups protest wind power |
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TennesseeWalker (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. We really don't need to be fighting windmills..... |
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Dissenting_Prole (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. They're ugly???? |
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Throckmorton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. You really think wind power will eliminate transmission lines? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I guess he could not pull up a smokestack pic so quick |
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Sagan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. why would an environmental group be against wind power? |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I think they can hurt birds. (NT) |
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treepig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. yeah, there was a study funded by petroleum interests |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. There you go--it's a cat problem |
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Dissenting_Prole (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Yes, about 2 birds a year |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wind power as a practical source of energy is a myth |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. how is it a myth? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 11:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The amount of electricity generated |
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Frangible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. so... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Nuclear makes the most sense |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Dealing with the waste is incredibly expensive |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. The environment shouldn't suffer |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I've been pushing nuclear energy for years as the safest alternative, |
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politicat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 03:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Not Yucca Mountain. |
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zeaper (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. NIMBY |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Whether or not it's NIMBY, there still is no credible failure scenario. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Won't get any argument from me on coal |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. This isn't at all true for most environmentalists |
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Rabbit of Caerbannog (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Palm and Altamont can be (and is being) repowered. |
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Rabbit of Caerbannog (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. AVIAN FATALITIES PER YEAR: |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
22. Nobody has successfully refuted wtmusic on Nukes vs. coal & wind |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I believe that the $0.03/kw-hr is a fully loaded cost, not weighted |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Good answers |
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treepig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. total radioactivity on earth will actually fall in about 1000 years? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. The rate of natural radioactive decay for Thorium and Uranium is very slow |
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treepig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. thanks for the information |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Been there, done that. |
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The Bish (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 11:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So much not to understand too |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 03:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Wow. Great info. You are hereby nominated as DU court physicist |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 12:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm not sure when Fusion will be practical... |
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Flightful (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 02:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. That's $0.03 plus subsidies |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-03 06:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I can think of no form of energy that isn't subsidized in some way. |
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