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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:55 PM
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Russia and Venezuela Announce Plan For Russia to Build "Turnkey" Nuclear Reactors in Venezuela.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 09:26 PM by NNadir
Russian reactors slated for Venezuela

Russia has agreed to move towards building a nuclear power plant in Venezuela as part of the latest set of trade agreements between the nations.

On 5 October Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Hugo Chavez spent about one hour discussing energy issues before signing a package of deals described as an 'action plan' for the next four years. Among other things, it covers joint development in oil and gas as well as nuclear energy.

The Russian state nuclear corporation, Rosatom, said agreements provide for the turn-key construction of a twin reactor nuclear power plant based on VVER-1200 pressurized water reactors as well as a research reactor for medical and industrial isotopes. The countries will also work on supporting infrastructure necessary for "the transition to the active phase of construction."



http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP_Russian_reactors_slated_for_Venezuela_1810101.html">Russian reactors slated for Venezuela

A VVER-1200 is, um, a 1200MWe reactor. According to the Danish Energy Agency, in 2009, all of the wind installations in the entire country produced (accompanied by lots of mindless cheering) http://www.ens.dk/en-US/supply/Renewable-energy/WindPower/Facts-about-Wind-Power/Key-figures-statistics/Sider/Forside.aspx">6721 GWh of electricity. There are (still) 8766 hours in a year, meaning that the average continuous power of all the wind turbines in Denmark in 2009 was the equivalent of a 767 MWe power plant of any type operating at 100% of capacity utilization, which ignores the fact that Denmark dumps - at a financial loss - much of its wind generated electricity on the spot market at precisely the times that no one actually needs the power.

Thus to produce more electricity than all of the turbines in Denmark, the Venezuelan reactor will need to operate at 63.89% capacity utilization, something it is relatively easy to do, since most nuclear reactors worldwide operate at close to 90% capacity utilization.

Note that if Republicans are elected to the White House in 2012, the above information will be used - with the willful collaboration of anti-nukes - to start an unjustifiable war, this in Venezuela, similar to that which Dick Cheney started in Iraq last decade. (All one needs to do is to say, "uranium" and people will be inspired to mindlessly kill other people, based on ignorance. The number of nuclear wars observed since 1945 is zero, but the number of oil wars is decidedly not zero.)



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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 02:30 AM
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1. lalalalalalala....
I can't hear you therefore you don't exist

Lalalalalalalala......
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 02:45 AM
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2. No one has done it before, so we will see what the outcome is.
It will be interesting to see how forthcoming they are with the cost numbers; data from all centralized economies I know of is rather sparse.

But we will see. In the meantime, those wishing to build in England are probably going to be confronted with choices defined by the parameters of a turnkey contract. The conservative government there (with a liberal energy minister to achieve the necessary coalition) has rejected direct subsidies for the 8 reactors the conservatives were hoping to build.

They are still "willing to consider" subsidizing the insurance and waste costs, however.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:18 PM
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5. Close your eyes and you won't see me either.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:14 AM
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3. While the syntax of "The Voice of Russia" is somewhat mangled, it does offer potential insight...
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 09:16 AM by kristopher
...The signing of a nuclear agreement may trigger different response in different countries, the president said. But Russia and Venezuela are open and honest about their plans. Russia wants the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela to be self-sufficient in energy and to rely on its own potential for further development.

Russia’s oil companies may profit the most from bilateral cooperation. Russia’s Lada manufacturers plan a joint production of Lada cars. Venezuela is to be supplied with Russian gas turbines and will receive assistance in compressed gas production on Lake Maracaibo. And experts from both countries will cooperate in building wells to pump oil and gas....

http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/10/16/26482569.html

But we know from our friends who are aligned with nuclear power that it is the arch enemy of fossil fuels, so this *must* be a silly remark that was planted by the powerful forces of the renewable energy conglomerates seeking to discredit the poor beleaguered commercial nuclear power arm of the military industrial complex.

No?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:17 PM
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4. Um, um, um, um... Are we hearing complaints about Russia from the squad that approved the
sale of the entire German future to Gazprom by Gazprom representative Gerhardt Schroeder who had a day job as Chancellor of Germany?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/09/AR2005120901755.html">Gazprom Gerhardt, architect of the very dumb German Nuclear Phase Out.

I note that the billions upoon billions of Euros thrown at the so called "renewable energy" industry by millions of Germans, rich and poor alike - with greater strain on the latter - has raised the cost of electricity in Germany astronomically, but it has done nothing to defang Gazprom.

Russia can have it both ways. They can make money off stupid people who work to destroy Germany's largest (still) form of climate change gas free energy - while selling them gas, or they can make money selling reactors.

I assure you they have no interest in the bizarre cultish opinions of lightweight bloggers pumped up on dogma and will thus do whatever they wish to do.

Have a nice evening dreaming about how you too, could pull down 300,000 euros per year, like Gazprom Gerhardt, by selling out future generations.
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