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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:16 PM
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BP clashes with scientists over deep sea oil pollution
BP has challenged widespread scientific claims that vast plumes of oil are spreading underwater from its blown-out rig in the Gulf of Mexico. The denial comes as the oil giant prepares for a new operation to put an end to the worst oil spill in US history – which could see the leak get worse before it gets better.

The company's challenge to several scientific studies is likely to put it further at odds with an increasingly angry Obama administration, which has accused it of playing down the size of the leak in an effort to limit possible fines.

BP's chief executive, Tony Hayward, said it had no evidence of underwater oil clouds. "The oil is on the surface," he said. "Oil has a specific gravity that's about half that of water. It wants to get to the surface because of the difference in specific gravity."

Hayward's assertion flies in the face of studies by scientists at universities in Florida, Georgia and Mississippi, among other institutions, who say they have detected huge underwater plumes of oil, including one 120 metres (400ft) deep about 50 miles from the destroyed rig.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/31/bp-clashes-scientists-sea-oil-pollution

BP seems to think that they are talking to bankers. They seem to think that they create the truth.

Differences in specific gravity drive separation.
Pressure compresses material.
Using chemicals that break up the oil changes the whole situation.
It may dissolve hydrocarbons that can now be dissolved in water.
It increases the ionic influence on the particles that are now immersed is salt water.

The whole thing requires facts. Not theoretical elementary Fox physics.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:21 PM
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1. I respect the scientists' claims: Hayward is a corporatist Dog and Tony Show, POISONING the environs

BP seems to think that they are talking to bankers. They seem to think that they create the truth.

Like Karl Rove: "Create Reality"
oil spill "tiny" compared to vary big ocean"
Corexit is safe -- despite being banned in Britain and ordered not to disperse by EPA repeatedly.

We're being neo-conned by this )&$#*^$)@$ criminal, from whose activities Obama has yet to separate and take action...while the Gulf dies.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:22 PM
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2. Except when you use dispersant.
If the globules of the lighter sw substance are small enough, they can be suspended in solution indefinitely due to the small electrical charges keeping them from coalescing.

They should stop the dispersant immediately. All it's doing is hiding the truth.
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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 10:44 PM
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3. BP and immigrant post-doc labor
after BP laid off their engineers and scientists (1987-88; MOI) they have switched to the heavy use of foreign post-docs.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 05:20 PM
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4. BP behaves quite differently in Scotland. Connect the dots...
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:22 AM
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5. Strange that ...
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 03:23 AM by Nihil
> four part series comparing regulation in the Shetland Islands vs US

I wonder why they behave differently?

:think:

I bet if you look closely, you will also see that Exxon, Chevron, Shell and
all the rest also behave differently in regulated environments (e.g., North Sea)
than unregulated ones (e.g., Nigeria, Gulf of Mexico).

:shrug:

(As you say, "connect the dots" ...)
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