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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:20 AM
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Drinking Poop is Bad for Us
Drinking Poop is Bad for Us
18 May 2005



Jeffrey K. Griffiths, an associate professor of public health and family medicine at Tufts School of Medicine has an enlightening and nauseating OP/ED in today’s Boston Globe: Don't drink the sewage. Griffiths is a member of the US EPA's National Drinking Water Advisory Council and its Science Advisory Board. His OP/ED poses some important questions for the EPA’s proposal “that would allow sewage treatment plants to discharge inadequately treated human waste into lakes, rivers, streams, and coastal waters?”

Griffiths contends that, “IT DOESN'T TAKE a medical degree to know that drinking poop is bad for us. For centuries, we have protected ourselves from waterborne plagues by keeping human waste out of our water.” I quite agree.

The Clean Water Act generally prohibits sewage treatment plants from discharging partially treated waste into our waterways. Sewage is normally treated by settling out solid materials, and then through a biological process that kills pathogens.

Both treatments are necessary to kill the full spectrum of viruses, bacteria, and parasites in sewage. Both are needed to minimize the risks to people downstream, and both are required by law.

The EPA's proposal would allow sewage to be dumped into waterways more often without biological treatment, which EPA calls ''blending" because the largely untreated sewage is mixed with treated sewage before it is discharged.

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18 May 2005



Jeffrey K. Griffiths, an associate professor of public health and family medicine at Tufts School of Medicine has an enlightening and nauseating OP/ED in today’s Boston Globe: Don't drink the sewage. Griffiths is a member of the US EPA's National Drinking Water Advisory Council and its Science Advisory Board. His OP/ED poses some important questions for the EPA’s proposal “that would allow sewage treatment plants to discharge inadequately treated human waste into lakes, rivers, streams, and coastal waters?”

Griffiths contends that, “IT DOESN'T TAKE a medical degree to know that drinking poop is bad for us. For centuries, we have protected ourselves from waterborne plagues by keeping human waste out of our water.” I quite agree.

The Clean Water Act generally prohibits sewage treatment plants from discharging partially treated waste into our waterways. Sewage is normally treated by settling out solid materials, and then through a biological process that kills pathogens.

Both treatments are necessary to kill the full spectrum of viruses, bacteria, and parasites in sewage. Both are needed to minimize the risks to people downstream, and both are required by law.

The EPA's proposal would allow sewage to be dumped into waterways more often without biological treatment, which EPA calls ''blending" because the largely untreated sewage is mixed with treated sewage before it is discharged.

Drinking Poop is Bad for Us
18 May 2005



Jeffrey K. Griffiths, an associate professor of public health and family medicine at Tufts School of Medicine has an enlightening and nauseating OP/ED in today’s Boston Globe: Don't drink the sewage. Griffiths is a member of the US EPA's National Drinking Water Advisory Council and its Science Advisory Board. His OP/ED poses some important questions for the EPA’s proposal “that would allow sewage treatment plants to discharge inadequately treated human waste into lakes, rivers, streams, and coastal waters?”

Griffiths contends that, “IT DOESN'T TAKE a medical degree to know that drinking poop is bad for us. For centuries, we have protected ourselves from waterborne plagues by keeping human waste out of our water.” I quite agree.

The Clean Water Act generally prohibits sewage treatment plants from discharging partially treated waste into our waterways. Sewage is normally treated by settling out solid materials, and then through a biological process that kills pathogens.

Both treatments are necessary to kill the full spectrum of viruses, bacteria, and parasites in sewage. Both are needed to minimize the risks to people downstream, and both are required by law.

The EPA's proposal would allow sewage to be dumped into waterways more often without biological treatment, which EPA calls ''blending" because the largely untreated sewage is mixed with treated sewage before it is discharged.

Drinking Poop is Bad for Us
18 May 2005



Jeffrey K. Griffiths, an associate professor of public health and family medicine at Tufts School of Medicine has an enlightening and nauseating OP/ED in today’s Boston Globe: Don't drink the sewage. Griffiths is a member of the US EPA's National Drinking Water Advisory Council and its Science Advisory Board. His OP/ED poses some important questions for the EPA’s proposal “that would allow sewage treatment plants to discharge inadequately treated human waste into lakes, rivers, streams, and coastal waters?”

Griffiths contends that, “IT DOESN'T TAKE a medical degree to know that drinking poop is bad for us. For centuries, we have protected ourselves from waterborne plagues by keeping human waste out of our water.” I quite agree.

The Clean Water Act generally prohibits sewage treatment plants from discharging partially treated waste into our waterways. Sewage is normally treated by settling out solid materials, and then through a biological process that kills pathogens.

Both treatments are necessary to kill the full spectrum of viruses, bacteria, and parasites in sewage. Both are needed to minimize the risks to people downstream, and both are required by law.

The EPA's proposal would allow sewage to be dumped into waterways more often without biological treatment, which EPA calls ''blending" because the largely untreated sewage is mixed with treated sewage before it is discharged.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:33 AM
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1. That REALLY needs to be on a Bumper Sticker!
I think even the RWers would understand that one.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:09 AM
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2. Why do the wingnuts think we
wash our hands after going potty?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:48 PM
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9. Maybe they don't wash theirs. eom
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:17 AM
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3. Good point! Good idea!
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suneel112 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 11:40 PM
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13. Don't drink Poop
It's all right. It's today's culture. I mean, in this day and age, you hear S*** (like Limbaugh), see S*** (like Fox News), talk S***, wear S***, make S***, blow S*** up, eat S***. Why not drink S***?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:44 PM
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4. Here! I made the Magnetic Ribbon for the back of the SUV's
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:45 PM by Up2Late
"Drinking Poop is Bad for Us"



You can make a SUV Ribbon with almost anything on it at <http://www.supportourribbons.com/>

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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:35 PM
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6. Shouldn't it be brown?
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:35 PM
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5. Don't shit where you eat
That's what dear old dad used to say.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 10:36 AM
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14. Standard protocol for most animals
Who will take every precaution to soil away from the area where they live.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:06 PM
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7. Petition from League of Conservation Voters & bumpersticker idea
Tell Congress to Keep Sewage Out of Our Drinking Water!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/918223590

It is bad enough they spout poop everytime they speak but now they want us to drink it.

The Bumpersticker:

GWB: The ProFeces President
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:16 PM
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8. More about blending...
In my Environmental Science class we took a trip to the local wastewater treatment plant last week, and blending was brought up in the discussion.

From how I understand it, there are two sewer systems in any given city: the sanitation and storm sewers. The storm sewers usually go right off to lakes and streams, but the sanitation ones are treated first. Basically blending would combine the sanitation and storm sewers together to be treated. However cities can only treat so much sewage, and if a heavy rain were to come it would flood the treatment plant and wash away all the bacteria they use to eat the solid waste. Therefore, they would have to route large amounts of the water into the lakes and streams.

A lot of nasty stuff tends to get poured into storm sewers by ignorant people, so blending can be good to filter that out.

But it also makes the treatment plants prone to flooding which means they have to release untreated waste.

Someone asked how much bigger the treatment plant we visited would have to expand to handle blending, and they figure it is by about a factor of five in order to prevent releasing untreated waste in heavy rains. That would definitely not be a cheap task.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:14 AM
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10. I don't know where you live, here in Atlanta, that's not how it was built
Atlanta, at least in the older parts (which is most of the city limits) was built with only One Sewer system. Rain water and sewage blend together on the way to the treatment plant, so when we get heavy rain, it overflows into the Chattahoochee River and the creeks around Atlanta.

Most of the work on them only started in the last few years, when the storm sewers started collapsing due to old age.

Here's on example of the trouble we are in here: <http://www.waterindustry.org/New%20Projects/atlanta-5.htm>
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:41 AM
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11. So Atlanta built their original sewers to be blended?
I wonder how many other cities are like that.

Where I live there are two seperate sewers though.
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dawgfan Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:53 AM
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12. EPA backtracked
George W. Bush changed his mind. He's not going to make us drink feces water. It was in USA Today.

He still poisons America.

Please read my essay on my website about how George W. Bush Poisons America. I also have a list of the top 9 conservative blowhards.

www.mark-gelbart.com
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