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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:05 PM
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Undercover Agent Hunts the Hunters
Source: Seattle Times

The body count began the moment Tom Sharpe met Mick Gordon.

When Sharpe stepped from his pickup, he found four men and a boy in the garage of Gordon's Longview duplex stripping the skin from a big bull elk.

Gordon retrieved a hunting dog Sharpe was thinking about buying, and they drove toward the woods to test the dog.

Along the way, Gordon bragged that he killed lots of bears, cougars and bobcats. He shot four or five bull elk a year. A few months earlier he'd poached a big cougar. He and a buddy tossed dynamite into a creek to kill fish.

Gordon declared that "he had poached everything there was to poach."

Shortly after midnight, they turned back, having killed nothing that day. But Gordon invited Sharpe to come hunting again.

Gordon wouldn't have been so welcoming if he'd known who Sharpe really was: an undercover wildlife cop.



Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008798596_poachers01m.html



These men are not responsible hunters, they are nothing but sadistic killers and cowards.

I'm not anti-hunting if it is for food. Ethical hunters eat what they kill - pay into conservation and wildlife management with the purchase of hunting tags - and end up eating meat that is free from the many implanted and artificial chemicals that most farm bred animals suffer with in the commercial meat industry.

I wish these poaching pricks got lots more jail time, but at least they have been exposed for the scumbags they are; maybe it will deter other neanderthals from doing the same.

And on a related note, Michael Vick sure as hell better not be allowed the privilege of playing in the NFL again. People that get their rocks off killing animals just for the thrill of it deserve nothing but shame.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:12 PM
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1. "The Kill 'Em All Boyz"!?
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 03:14 PM by leftchick
there is a special place in hell for these fucked up assholes...




State wildlife agents seized this pelt of a cougar during their investigation of a Southwest Washington group of poachers



Three men convicted in an undercover poaching investigation are seen posing with the heads of elk. This photo was found on the computer of Mick Gordon, center. The others are Brian Hall, left, and Adam Lee. The group called itself the "Kill 'Em All Boyz."

<snip>



Nothing, it seemed, was too big or too small for the hunters, who took wildlife both legally and illegally. Their claimed victims included house cats, bobcats, mountain lions, elk, deer, bears, a turkey vulture, fish and one of their own hunting dogs.

They even had a name for their group: They called themselves the "Kill 'Em All Boyz."

Started with a tip


Rumors of a poaching ring had been circulating in Southwest Washington when Fish and Wildlife got a phone call with a tip in late 2006. Mick Gordon was trying to sell a hunting dog, and he was boasting about his poaching prowess.

The tipster offered a tantalizing possibility. Could a wildlife cop posing as someone interested in buying the dog get inside this group of hunters?




Look at this fucktard. :puke:



mick gorden
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:18 PM
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18. They killed people's pet cats and even one of their own hunting dogs?!!!
What the hell is wrong with people like that?
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 08:37 PM
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20. They probably all listen to this fat f--k
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tanngrisnir3 Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:13 PM
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2. Great news. Unfortunately, state budgets are so effing thin right now...
that some areas, for example, my home area of Monterey County, CA, there is one game warden for the entire Monterey Bay and Los Padres/Big Sur area, and there haven't been new hires in years.

Sheriffs Deputies will sometimes looking for poachers, but only if complaints are called in.

I fucking hate poachers.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:24 PM
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4. I believe there is a relationship between poaching and racism
I have 20 years working in the public schools in rural WA state. I can't quote any official research, but my anecdotal observation is that those teens who brag the most about the animals they poached over the weekend, frequently are the same teens who end up being written up for making "racially inappropriate comments" in class.

They are attracted to Skin Head propaganda on the web, and are nazi wanna-bez in school. Administration has ZERO tolerance for that bullshit, and they are suspended on the spot for that kind of language.

Yet sadly, they are products of parents that taught them not only an insensitivity towards other living creatures (hence the poaching), but anybody that is different from them. Fear based education from racist parents -and that fucking redneck mentality is present in rural and urban schools alike.

I do what I can to teach a greater appreciation for this living earth and it's many wonders - maybe a little will sink in.

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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:31 PM
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6. in other words, they're freepers.
nt
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:56 PM
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17. From going up around these types, I know there's a definite connection between
poaching and stupidity and racism and stupidity. The kids who liked to drive their trucks over cats or dogs running across the street were all complete idiots.

The "Kill 'Em All Boyz" are described in this article as: "Brian Hall, the 38-year-old manager of his family's Longview temp agency; Joe Dills, a 20-year-old logger; and a mentally disabled man named Dan." I have a feeling all of these "boyz" are mentally disabled, or at least mentally deranged.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:17 PM
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3. I have a number of people in my family who like to hunt...
...and would be sickened over the actions of these pigs. The hunters in my family are law abiding who always hunt in a responsible manner. Not like these idiots, who should have been sent to the big house for a couple decades at the least.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:18 PM
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9. My family is a hunting family
We hate poaching. We are having battles with poachers because there is almost zero enforcement in our area.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:31 PM
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5. Mr Gordon's head would look good stuffed and mounted over my fireplace
I'm not a violent person but I make a special exception for abusers of animals.

I have to chase poachers away from our place a few times each year. Most of them are southeast Asians the rest a combination of Hispanics and low life rednecks.

I do not think the Asians shoot deer just for the pleasure of killing. Poaching is a means of feeding their families. Doesn't excuse it but it makes it easier to understand.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:56 PM
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8. You wouldn't even have to kill him
Just put his head through and stuff an apple in it to keep him quiet. Let his bare ass hang from you house and let the wild animals get a bite or two.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:20 PM
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10. On second thought I already have a stuffed pig head on the wall
Named "arnold" after the pig in green acres (Not der governator). Wife despises the thing. I also had a moose head mounted and she made me hang it in the garage. I don't think she'd put up with a stuffed poacher or especially a live one.
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40bama Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:35 PM
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12. A "stuffed poacher"? Works for me! nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:21 PM
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11. Here rednecks ride around
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 04:24 PM by Enthusiast
drinking beer and getting high while looking for deer with big antlers. In my area they cut the antlers right off the deer allowing the carcass to rot. It is disgusting. We have miles and miles of unimproved roads so enforcement is way way inadequate.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:50 PM
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13. I'd go with a Gordon-skin rug, myself.
You could probably cover quite a lot of floor space with that bloated subhuman's hide.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 03:44 PM
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7. Thrill hunters belong in prison
People around here need that occasional elk in the freezer for their family's protein. Pickings are generally pretty slim in the desert.

When anybody kills a food animal out here, taking the head and leaving the meat to rot, it's a sin of unimaginable proportions. They're robbing an animal of its life and a family of its food at the same time for a fucking trophy. Poachers are even lower on the chain, killing animals they have no intention of eating, like the big cats.

However, wasting disease is a growing problem out here. People who rely on wild meat are taking a big chance on developing V-CJD down the line.
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 05:23 PM
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14. There is no modern rationale for hunting carnivores. Except for sport.
Which isnt illegal. While the self proclaimed "for food only" group does its part, not enough of them to manage populations. That is to say, not enough out there to manage populations to modern expectations.

Ive always been deeply offended by poachers. Animals are public domain. We have to pay fees to harvest them. When some fuckhead blasts an a giant bull elk, or poaches a mountain lion, bobcat, bear - those are all animals that I will neve rhave the opportunity to see in the wild. Which is like, the main reason I go outside.

I wish the punishment for poaching was much more severe.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 05:40 PM
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15. Until we have humane production farming practices....
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 05:44 PM by RiverStone
Not to mention clean, chemical, pesticide, steroid, and cruelty free slaughterhouses - I would never suggest someone hunting for their own food is wrong.

Check out this good book on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation

I'm not a hunter and don't even own a gun, but I assure you the animals who live and die in US slaughter houses suffer far worse fates (over their entire lives) than those that die instantly via a 30 ought shot in the wild.

On the other hand and back to the OP, poaching and/or trophy hunting is a disgusting waste of life and these twisted pervs that enjoy it are unthinking wimps. Cowards that see sport in killing an animal for nothing but fun. Does stuffing a beautiful cougar and mounting it make them feel more like a big man (or woman)? To me an elk rack on the wall is a testament to that individuals stupidity and nothing more.

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:18 PM
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16. Recommend #5
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 06:20 PM by rpannier
Thanks for the post
Interesting story
Glad this loser has been caught

This tells me all I need to know about these losers:
Nothing, it seemed, was too big or too small for the hunters, who took wildlife both legally and illegally. Their claimed victims included house cats, bobcats, mountain lions, elk, deer, bears, a turkey vulture, fish and one of their own hunting dogs.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 08:25 PM
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19. Pfshaw. Those guys got off lucky--they could have run into the wildlife wardens in central Africa.
In some of the African wildlife preserves, the game wardens are equipped with automatic weapons, high-powered rifles, and rocket-propelled grenades, as well as orders that poachers be shot on sight.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:10 PM
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21. Put these fuckers UNDER the jail. Make an example of them that their friends will
heed.

About 20 years ago I had the great displeasure of working briefly with a guy who bragged about killing deer year round. He was one of those "the gummint don't tell me whut t' do!" types. And honestly he was one of the stupidest human beings I have ever met. Thick. And I have met some humdingers too.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:55 PM
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22. I don't know where you live. They would have lost a lot of what they own and their freedom...
if they lived here.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:01 PM
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23. Nail the filthy bastards hard. A man was arrested here several years ago with a fawn
in his freezer, :nuke:

Fawns are not food. :grr:
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