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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:39 PM
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PETA accuses KFC of deception - Lawsuit
PEOPLE FOR THE Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) filed the suit in California Superior Court in Los Angeles against KFC and KFC’s parent, Yum Brands Inc., seeking an injunction to stop what it says are deceptive statements on the KFC Web site.
       PETA contends that the chickens KFC buys from suppliers are abused through drugging, feeding and slaughter practices. PETA’s director of vegan outreach, Bruce Friedrich, said the treatment is legal, but “they can’t legally lie about it, and they have been.”
       Friedrich said KFC’s Web site and other public communications contain untruths about how chickens are treated.

http://msnbc.com/news/935814.asp?0cv=CB20

In my opinion, if you ever had a pet, any kind, they all have personalities. Besides the obvious dogs, cats, horses... I've read that most all get to know you and you them. I've read stories on pigs and chickens can be quite nice friends. Dolphins are supposed to have great personalities.

Most of Asia eats dogs and cats. Why does the U.S. have the right to decide what to kill and eat?

I think all people are on different consciousness levels in our evolutionary process. Vegetarians are surely at the top, (next to the Dali Lama.)

I don't think God would want us killing animals to eat. Sure you can hear Robertson vomit out some passage in the bible about eating animals but can anyone, at the world's current consciousness level, defend feasting on the blood of death; the blood of God's creations?

But then they all eat each other so why can't we eat them? Ouch, the world's a confusing place!
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Jonathan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:41 PM
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1. PETA rules!
May peace be unto them.
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jhfenton Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 09:23 PM
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6. PETA is a fringe organization...
that aids and abets criminal activities.

Maybe it's time to visit Taco Bell and order a Baja Chicken Chalupa.
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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:58 PM
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7. Prove it
Go on, back up your statement.

Make it better than trespassing in slaughterhouses with cameras.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:55 PM
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9. You mean
more than the support given by PETA to ALF and ELF, "environmental" groups listed as domestic terrorists (before the rush to classify everyone as terrorists post 9/11) by the FBI? The groups that have caused millions of dollars in damages by destroying property and trashing labs working on potentially life-saving research of diseases using animal models? Before 9/11 and the switch to watching for international terrorism, PETA's tax claims were under scrutiny by the FBI for possibly providing financial aid to these groups. With 9/11, this seems to have been sidelined, as I havent heard about it since.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 04:00 PM
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8. Yep, let's all eat processed chicken parts!
Mmmmmmmmmm. Can't wait. :eyes:
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:25 PM
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2. I just saw KFC's website the other day
and was appalled by their blatant lies about treating animals as kindly as they can.

KFC and Yum brands (which, if I remember correctly, includes Pizza Hut and Taco Hell) are truly disgusting companies.
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FireHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:23 AM
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4. Hardly surprising
If the store managers are willing (and eager) to serve rotted chicken to customers, It's hardly a big surprise that would mistreat animals.

I've not been to KFC in 4 years since we got two batches of GREEN chicken from two separate KFC outlets.

Disgusting people.

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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:37 PM
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3. Ahhh, nice debate technique
Your side is evolved and at the top, the rest of us are barbarian hordes (by implication). Is this how you frame every debate?

I agree that animals should be treated ethically even when raised for food, but your language betrays your zealotry in demonizing everyone else.
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JonasQuinn Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 03:22 PM
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5. I disagree with this statement
I don't think God would want us killing animals to eat.

http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/exodus/exodus16.htm

Exodus 16:11-13:

11 The LORD spoke to Moses and said,
12 "I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them: In the evening twilight you shall eat flesh, and in the morning you shall have your fill of bread, so that you may know that I, the LORD, am your God."
13 In the evening quail came up and covered the camp. In the morning a dew lay all about the camp,

***
From a non-religious perspective, humanity has evolved as an omnivore. Our predecessors back to ramapithecine have eaten both vegetation and meat, and our digestive systems have evolved for such a mixed diet.

I agree with Dr. Gonzo that we have an obligation to not treat food animals cruely, but there really isn't a basis in religion or biology for claiming that vegans are superior.
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naveride Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 09:03 AM
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10. My experience with PETA sucks
We had a local zoo in Scotch Plains, NJ where the owner rescued injured animals and old circus animals and brought animals to local schools and scout troops etc. He was even on Wild America once. Then some PETA people noticed that the monkey house was under specifications for NJ law and organized on the internet to protest and try to shut down the zoo. No one actually bothered to come down to the zoo beforehand and find out what was going on. If they had, they would have realized that the owner had been trying for years to expand the monkey house and that the neighbors and city council had been stopping him. Instead, they protested a day and brought it to the attention of the statew authorities. The city council was only to gald to shut the zoo down completely. Since many of the animals were injured or unable to reproduce no other zoo would take them in and most of them were killed including the apes that PETA was supposed to be trying to help in the first place. PETA officially considered it a victory. Since then, my opinion of PETA has hit rock bottom and stayed there. I haven't heard anything since to change my mind.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 02:13 PM
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11. I don't like PETA
They seem like a narrow-minded organization bent on promoting their agenda above anything else, including the welfare of humans.

I fully support animal rights, but that doesn't mean I'm a vegan. I love meat, and humans were designed to eat meat. If we were vegetarians from the start, we would be among the animals because our brains wouldn't have developed without the rich proteins of meat. However, I don't agree that b/c the cattle industry is cruel, that veganism is the way out. That's like blaming the wheel for the countless car crashes. You're getting way too simplistic and basic. The problem is the meat industry, not the meat consumers. Farm factories that are purely for profit by the bare minimum is truly offensive, but that doesn't mean meat eating itself is wrong. Guess what, the Inuit are among the healthiest people in the world, and they eat nothing but animal products. It's our processed and chemical-laden meats that seem to be the problem. So moderation and exercise is the best way to stay healthy. Meat is not immoral. Vegans like to say that even though they still kill animals (farming machines, controlled hunts, pest controls, etc.), they kill less than the average meat eater. So if I decided to only eat meat every other day, that makes me better than the rest? No it doesn't. If you're a vegan, then okay, a lot of people have qualms about certain foods, like Muslims and Jews. Just keep your annoyance and self-righteous levels low.
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Aaron Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 06:36 AM
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12. 'the Inuit are among the healthiest people in the world'
Do you have a source for that?
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:30 AM
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13. That's all good for
those who are religious, I happen to be athiest.

That would be how I defend feasting on the blood of death; the blood of God's creations?

I feel that vegetarians have every right to eat and believe what they want.
As I also have every right to sink my teeth into a steak.
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