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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:57 PM
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Gazprom seeks BP's help to break into American energy supply
The wizards advocating these new NG projects must be completely deluded.

Russia's Gazprom is trying to muscle its way into the American energy market by encouraging BP to share a stake in its liquefied natural gas operation in Trinidad, which supplies the US.

Gazprom, the world's largest gas producer, has already secured a 25% share of the wholesale gas market in Europe - something that has caused widespread political unease - and wants to increase its influence in the US.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2155368,00.html
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 11:22 PM
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1. Maybe they can get one of Amory Lovins disciples to be President of the United States.
The asshole can ban nuclear energy in the United States and then take a seat on the Gazprom board of directors.

It works like a charm in Germany where a new massive committment to dangerous fossil fuels and the generation of dangerous fossil fuel waste has been made.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1142152,00.html

Even an anti-nuke site, which in general couldn't care less in general about dangerous fossil fuel waste, dangerous fossil fuel accidents, dangerous fossil fuel wars, dangerous fossil fuel corporate malfeasance or dangerous fossil fuel leaks was embarrassed into linking their pal's obvious shilling for a dangerous fossil fuel.

From mindlessly.org themselves: http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2005/Gerhard-Schroeder-Gazprom13dec2005.htm



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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:33 AM
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2. I think Germany has made a decision with tremendous opportunity-cost.
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 10:34 AM by phantom power
Each year they forgo nuclear, it forces the people actually responsible for providing reliable energy to make decisions that commit them more deeply to coal and/or NG. Thus digging their hole deeper, both in terms of climate change and in terms of being utterly ass-invaded by Gazprom. Economically speaking.

Opportunity cost. I wonder if there is a rigorous way to include that in fully-externalized cost. I suppose not, since it involves predictions about the future. Which are unreliable, even for my magic 8-ball.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 08:21 PM
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3.  On the other hand, maybe Schroeder just took an old fashioned bribe.
These days there is no such thing as shame.

Schroeder will go down in history as the man who destroyed Germany's nuclear infrastructure for 300,000 pieces of silver per year.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:06 PM
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4. Yes, Schroeder's particular case makes ya wonder about conflicts of interest.
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