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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:42 AM
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The Euro vs Dollar Currency War Monitor
http://www.a1-guide-to-gold-investments.com/free-issue.html

In essence, the FTAA is an attempt to use the chimera of “free trade” and “economic cooperation” as a stepping stone to brining about complete political integration - just like that of the EU across the Atlantic. The goal is to completely do away with the United States’ national borders and soverignty under the Constitution, and encourage the free movement of not only goods, but also labor (that’s the word for “people” in leftist NWO-lingo), across “political boundaries.”

To make that possible here in the United States, the voting power of the American public must be diluted to the point of being rendered ineffectual. Hence the unspoken “Bush doctrine”:


Pretend to fight a war against international terrorism, and in the process secure a steady oil-supply from Iraq that can continue to be purchased with US dollars even after OPEC “goes euro.”

Close both eyes to illegal immigration from and through Mexico across the southern border, to the point of allowing Mexican paramilitary troops to cross into US territory and even have shootouts with US border patrol while enabling illegals, drug smugglers, and even terrorists to cross.

Give already present illegals “legal papers” that allow them to stay, work, and pay taxes. (They may soon be the government’s only tax base. Stay tuned for more on that topic).

Resist and throw roadblocks up against US citizen groups who expend their own private time, energy, and resources, and risk their lives to try and help secure the southern border. Encourage media and leftist organizations to label them as “extremists” and “trigger-happy right-wing nuts”.

Work on a series of multilateral agreements that will effectively make Washington the center of political power in “the Americas”, albeit under a ideological structure that is in total submission to United Nations concepts of “human rights” versus individual rights, “social justice” instead of merely justice alone, and “international cooperation” instead of national self-determination.

As indicated above, it is currently an open question whether this “Plan B” scheme is just that, or whether it is the real aim behind it all, so that the US - once integrated into a western hemispheric region - can later be easily integrated as an “autonomous administrative region” of the planned one-world super structure.


..more..

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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 05:03 PM
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1. I am counting
on the newly-vigorous anti-U.S. movements sweeping across South America to resist this imperialist scheme which is bad for both ordinary yanquis and our brethren to the South.

NAFTA on steroids? No thanks! No mas.
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:04 AM
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2. Funny we're worried about some of the same things this right-wing freak
show is. Globalism and the destuction of the nation state.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:01 PM
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3. ??? "Right-wing freak show" ???
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:25 AM
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4. Yes, Right wing free show.
Let's look at some of your beef with "Bush Doctrine".

4. Resist and throw roadblocks up against US citizen groups who expend their own private time, energy, and resources, and risk their lives to try and help secure the southern border. Encourage media and leftist organizations to label them as “extremists” and “trigger-happy right-wing nuts”.

Those damn leftists don't want us shooting at wet-backs. I am reminded of the private boarder patrols in Germany after WWI.

5. Work on a series of multilateral agreements that will effectively make Washington the center of political power in “the Americas”, albeit under a ideological structure that is in total submission to United Nations concepts of “human rights” versus individual rights, “social justice” instead of merely justice alone, and “international cooperation” instead of national self-determination.

“human rights” versus individual rights: Hmmm, people shouldn't have human rights.

“social justice” instead of merely justice alone If you're poor that's your problem. Public schools, welfare, social security -- screw that I'm not paying for it. If you can't take care of yourself become someone's slave.

“international cooperation” instead of national self-determination There should be no concept of international law and order as between people within a nation. Nations are constantly at war or preparing for it. A healthy nation is one which is expanding territorially and otherwise (read Benito Mussolini: What is Fascism, 1932).
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html

Ok maybe that last one's a bit of a strech. There are plenting of comments in your link about those evil leftists like we're the cause of all the problems with globalization. There's this picture draw of this evil "leftist" trying to turn the world into one evil commi country. The guys protesting the WTO, Bush Doctrine, the world bank, globalisation, and other things the article complains about mostly consider themselves leftists.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:06 AM
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5. Ah, I see. Thank you.
First of all, this wasn't my post, although I did post this same article in another thread.

Secondly, yes everything you posted would most likely go against the thought processes and "ideology" of most DUers and progressives in general, but I don't believe those issues were the reasons Kalian posted the article. However, there are also some compelling thoughts in this article regarding monetary policy which most likely would be shared by DUers and progressives.

If this world is ever going to be able to have an intelligent debate to the many problems that is facing it today, we need to find some common ground from where discussions can begin. To toss out and totally disregard this article, or any viewpoint, that does not exactly match ours gets us, and the discussion, nowhere. That would be no different than the "your with us or against us" mantra of Shrubco.
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:10 AM
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6. Sure
Yes I totally agree that we shouldn't completely disregard everything coming from people of other ideologies. I'm just saying this guy sounds like a right wing kook not an economist. I'd also avoid taking advice from someone trying to advance a certain type of investment market (gold).

This guys worries that international organizations (UN,trade groups) are going to somehow turn into a world government and that it'll be socialist. I'm more worried about corporations/big money taking over the world and it being fascist.

What points do you find interesting in the post?
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