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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:32 AM
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Obama's Science Adviser Called for "Zero Economic Growth"
Friday, July 31, 2009
By Christopher Neefus

1977 textbook "Ecoscience" by John Holdren and Paul R. and Anne H. Ehrlich
(CNSNews.com) – At a time when it was popular among environmentalists to talk about capping pollutants, John Holdren was writing about placing “caps” on the U.S. economy itself--and working toward “zero economic growth.”

Holdren, who is now President Obama’s top adviser on science and technology policy, wrote in the 1970s that it would be “entirely logical” to cap the Gross National Product--the total productivity of the American economy.

“It is by now abundantly clear that the GNP cannot grow forever. Why should it?” Holdren asked in a 1977 college science textbook he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich, titled “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.”

“Why should we not strive for zero economic growth (ZEG) as well as zero population growth?”

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51809




So by looking at alternative GDP numbers, the economy was eating itself over the last decade, not growing.
And where would population growth be without immigration?

Zero growth would be an increase I guess.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:43 AM
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1. Bear in mind that CNSNews is an explicitly right-wing outfit.
"About Us

The Cybercast News Service was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that’s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.

CNSNews.com endeavors to fairly present all legitimate sides of a story and debunk popular, albeit incorrect, myths about cultural and policy issues.

CNSNews.com has a full staff of credentialed journalists at its world headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, staffs full time news bureaus in Jerusalem and the Pacific Rim, and works with credentialed correspondents in London, Paris, Moscow and Nairobi. In addition to news, CNSNews.com is proud to present a full slate of commentaries by some of the brightest minds and sharpest wits in the nation, and a full stable of cartoonists to provide you with a morning political chuckle.

CNSNews.com is a division of the Media Research Center, a not-for-profit 501 (c)(3) organization. Like National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting System, CNSNews.com is able to provide its services and information to the public at no cost, thanks to the generous support of our thousands of donors and their tax-deductible contributions. However, unlike NPR or PBS, CNSNews.com does not accept any federal tax money for its operations."

That's not to dismiss it out of hand, but keep it in mind whenever reading their analyses or opinion pieces.

pnorman
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:45 AM
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2. Infinite growth in a finite system,
IS, as I have said many times before, a logical impossibility. As is the possibility of the rest of the world consuming on current US consumption standards. So, the logical consequence of THAT is..... Ms Bigmack
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