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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 03:43 PM
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The Geithner-Summers Plan is Even Worse Than We Thought
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 03:53 PM by girl gone mad
The Geithner-Summers Plan is Even Worse Than We Thought
Jeffrey Sachs, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/the-geithner-summers-plan_b_183499.html">The Huffington Post


Two weeks ago, I posted an article showing how the Geithner-Summers banking plan could potentially and unnecessarily transfer hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth from taxpayers to banks. The same basic arithmetic was later described by Joseph Stiglitz in the New York Times (April 1) and by Peyton Young in the Financial Times (April 1). In fact, the situation is even potentially more disastrous than we wrote. Insiders can easily game the system created by Geithner and Summers to cost up to a trillion dollars or more to the taxpayers.

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The earlier criticisms of the Geithner-Summers plan showed that even outside bidders generally have the incentive to bid far too much for the toxic assets, since they too get a free ride from the government loans. But once we acknowledge the insider-bidding route, the potential to game the plan at the cost of the taxpayers becomes extraordinary. And the gaming of the system doesn't have to be as crude as Citibank setting up its own CPPIF. There are lots of ways that it can do this indirectly, for example, buying assets of other banks which in turn buy Citi's assets. Or other stakeholders in Citi, such as groups of bondholders and shareholders, could do the same.

Several news stories suggest some grounding for these fears. Both Business Week and the Financial Times report that the banks themselves might be invited to bid for the toxic assets, which would seem to set up just the scam outline above. What is incredible is that lack of the most minimal transparency so far about the rules, risks, and procedures of this trillion-dollar plan. Also incredible is the apparent lack of any oversight by Congress, reinforcing the sense that the fix is in or that at best we are all sitting ducks.

The sad part of all this is that there are now several much better ideas circulating among experts, but none of these seems to get the time of day from the Treasury. The best ideas are forms of corporate reorganization, in which a bank weighed down with toxic assets is divided into two banks -- a "good bank" and a "bad bank" -- with the bad bank left holding the toxic assets and the long-term debts, while owning the equity of the good bank. If the bad assets pay off better than is now feared, the bondholders get repaid and the current bank shares keep their value. If the bad assets in fact default heavily as is now expected, the bondholders and shareholders lose their investments. The key point of the good bank -- bad bank plans is an orderly process to restore healthy banking functions (in the good bank) while divvying up the losses in a fair way among the banks' existing claimants. The taxpayer is not needed for that, except to cover the insured part of the banks' existing liabilities, specifically the banks' deposits and perhaps other short-term liabilities that are key to financial market liquidity.


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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 03:48 PM
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1. What can I say? It amazes me that anyone supports this plan.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 03:49 PM
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2. k&r
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 03:52 PM
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3. Just Out of Curosity,
how are the terms of the current plan different from the way bad assets were handled during the S&L bailout? The RTC got bad of bad mortgages then as well. The final cost was estimated byt the NYT at $124B.

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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:21 AM
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9. No receivership
The S&L banks were all put into receivership - government-managed dissolution. Which made sense because it was a) lawful and b) these were failed institutions.

This time around we are sinking in untold trillions into these institutions, not putting them into receivership, not even demanding changes in management. So we're in the position of helping the folks who got into this mess to steal what they can as the economy goes down in flames.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:28 PM
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12. After you read Notesdev post, here's one more thing to consider:
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 03:28 PM by truedelphi
The same people that guided us out of the S & L debacle are still available to guide us out of this crisis.

But Obama has refused to tap into their experience and knowledge, preferring to stick with Wall Street Insiders Geithner Summers et al.

Too bad what is good for Goldman Sachs is not good for the nation.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:35 PM
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4. "Lack of oversight by Congress "??? LOL
They're invired to the Big Party!


Now we got Your Children's Money too !
And there is not a fucking thing you can do about it !
Now THATS Bi-Partisanship".
Better get used to it !
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:29 PM
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5. No! There will be STRICT OVERSIGHT!!!!!
...or so I was told by a DUer a little over a week ago when I suggested that this plan was ripe for huge abuses.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:04 AM
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7. Yeah, oversight
as in "unintentional failure to notice or do something", although I have my doubts about the "unintentional" part
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:30 AM
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8. Yeah, everything is transparent now!
:eyes:

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:30 PM
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6. it's yet another fucking scam
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:42 AM
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10. I'm almost speechless over this (but not quite)
When I read this thru Krugman's blog this morning, most of my hair fell out & what's left has been curling in knots. I believe in Obama, I want to believe that Geithner is so immersed in Wall St./DC "groupthink" that he's flailing. Better than thinking he's bought & paid for. However, I think the President's loyalty to Geithner is proving a liability. Maybe it's the pressure to move quickly.

I know there's a "rush" to do something fast, but Jumpin-jeebers-crispus can't we do it RIGHT???? And I agree with other posters: where's the bloody transparency & oversight? There is none!

This is why you can't run a country like a business (Mr. Rich, in particular) - countries are supposed to provide the highest practical benefit for the largest number of people! Not just for the P&L, shareholders & parasites! I'm speechifyin' to my Congress critters over this (I still believe it might help, and the Easter Bunny is coming on Sunday). :rant:
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:44 AM
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11. THE PLAN is to lure Wall Street into it's coffin,
and use the society it owned to bury it.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:31 PM
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13. Pessimists keep forgetting that Geithner has pledged hismelf to see that oversight is provided
of course it will be a patchwork that will not contain the insider deals.

And it will be too little too late.
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