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glasalle Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:49 PM
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Bush defends outsourcing to India
Before and during his trip to India, Bush defended outsourcing of good-paying jobs by claiming that its okay if Indians take our jobs because we end up selling stuff back to them.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/13940642.htm

``India's middle class is buying air-conditioners, kitchen appliances and washing machines, and a lot of them from American companies like GE and Whirlpool and Westinghouse. And that means their job base is growing here in the United States. Younger Indians are acquiring a taste for pizzas from Domino's, Pizza Hut,'' Bush said to laughs from the audience at a Washington hotel. ``Today, India's consumers associate American brands with quality and value, and this trade is creating opportunity at home.''

The problem with this statement is that while these are American firms, little if any of these goods and services are made in the US anymore. The stockholders in the companies may benefit, but to hell with the average American worker. I've seen these kind of comments from leaders of both parties. Thomas Freidman makes the same claims in his latest book , "The World is Flat". With both parties against us, we are screwed.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:52 PM
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1. Consult this thread . .
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2143260

Bush doesn't care about black people? Hell, he doesn't care about ANYbody. Not unless you're one of the old-boy cronies, that is . . .
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:53 PM
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2. "Younger Indians are acquiring a taste for pizzas from Domino's"
That's unfortunate.

Domino's is really crappy pizza.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:53 PM
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3. so this is a new..." Unemployment-Side Economy " ...What the F*CK
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:56 PM
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5. Proof he is a Wet Brain Alcoholic Brain damaged Drug Addict..LINK>
click on the Blue Link in my signature.. then

google '..renana brooks and bush.....' for a psylogical profiles of his speach

what a F'n MORAN..!!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:54 PM
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4. If Bush defends it, it must mean that it's not well thought out and it
will cost us dearly. If you go by past examples, you can't reach any other conclusion.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:23 PM
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6. It's unAmerican! Period. n/t
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:34 PM
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7. Just don't come into my neighborhood, Chimp.
We'll stand outside our shuttered factories . . . and call you and your mama bad names.

(We also play baseball, not cricket with a fuckin' tennis ball, ya wuss!)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:51 PM
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8. Well, they NEED those mangoes!!!!
A necessary ingredient for a fresh summertime drink---a splash of mango koolaid, a half tumbler of Jim Beam, and life is rosey once again!!!

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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:04 PM
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9. India has some the highest tariffs in the world
They have tariffs of around 20% on most goods and have severe restrictions on foriegn investment. (PDF File on India's trade policies.) Shrub Inc's idea of free trade is India providing cheap labor for global while little return for US workers. He's lining his donor's pockets.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:03 PM
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11. That's the scam, you get a gold star
They obviously don't care that they're slitting their own throats in their largest market, the US. They hope they'll develop the rest of the world, where saturation with TVs, computers, refrigerators, and motorbikes is far, far away, and to hell with the country they started in and to hell with the people who sweated their lives away getting them started.

Yes, India has high tariffs. So do China, Korea, Japan, Malaysia, and most of the other countries this country has shipped its industry to. That's one of the dirty secrets of free trade, we're the only ones playing the game. The other secret is that while their workers are heavily protected by tariff, our workers are trying to compete on a head to head basis with people for whom a living wage in a local currency translates to less than subsistence when exchanged for dollars. It simply can't be done. It wouldn't provide a guy living under a bridge enough calories to survive, let alone any other necessities of sustaining life.

Offshoring is killing this country, pure and simple. It's driving the trade deficit and it's destroying the consumer base. It's left this country vulnerable in the next big war and it has to stop.

Don't look to either party to take on the corporations, though, and propose common sense, confiscatory tariffs to any corporation that tries to offshore jobs and use the US for a primary market. They're getting too rich on the stock of companies that offshore.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:07 AM
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15. "Offshoring is killing this country, pure and simple."
How true.

And being an unemployed technie, I'd love to go back to work in I.T.


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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:38 PM
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10. Bush wants more H-1B visa holders

in the U.S. to facilitate outsourcing no doubt.
This is currently being discussed in Congress. You can take action against H-1B increases at

You can take action on this alert via the web at:
http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/H1B/x3dkdx207wd6bx?
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old_techie Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 03:52 PM
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12. What is the Bush guestworker program really about?
Not what to do about illegal Mexicans, that does not require an all-inclusive guestworker-on-demand from any part of the world for any purpose whatsoever program. An H-1B on steroids program for Indians, Chinese and others perhaps?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:32 PM
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13. Pretty much
Joe Pig would tell his workers at his widget factory that times are hard and they will no longer be making that $15/hour for their skills but that their wage will be dropped to $5.15/hour. Most of them will quit and try to find something elsewhere that will actually pay their bills. He then whines to Uncle Sam that Americans don't want to work any more, and Uncle Sam recruits Mexicans to fill his factory at $5.15/hour.

That's how it works.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:40 AM
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14. Hell. the US corporation don't even need to pay minimum.
The going rate in Mexico is $4.56/day. That wonderful pay rate is with millions of US factory jobs in Mexico. They could offer $9.12/day and still fill all those Visa quotas.
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