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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:51 AM
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The Long Hot Summer, the Long Cold Winter - Wolcott
http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/09/the_long_hot_su.php

""Mikles: Bottom line, the consumer is broke and he doesn't know it yet. But he is about to find out. All the buckets that propelled consumer spending are empty now, whether it is the increase in mortgage debt, the increase in consumer debt or the reduction in the savings rate. No one statistic will tip the scale at the end of the day. But one very obvious and very curious statistic is that we have dipped into a negative savings rate for the first time. That is not only unsustainable, it is sustainable only for a few months. That's important to note because it tells you consumers are borrowing money to make debt payments. The U.S. consumer has become payment driven. He is driven not by the aggregate amount of debt he possesses but by the amount of the payment. And now the consumer has not only taken his savings rate to nothing, it has turned negative.

"Miller: Every month there is some increase in consumer borrowing that has to occur just for the consumer to stay level. The consumer is treating his balance sheet much the way the government is treating theirs, but, of course, the consumer can't create currency like the government can. The point is the consumer cannot continue to borrow to make his debt-service payments for very long. How did we get here? We got here because of the huge differential between wage growth and what we spend and what we consume.

"Q: What about the argument that consumers may not be saving but the appreciation they have seen on their houses is a form of savings?

"Mikles: The consumer doesn't know he is broke because his house hasn't stopped going up yet. It hasn't starting going down, it just hasn't stopped going up. Once it stops going up, the consumer will immediately -- and I mean a matter of months -- find out that he is, in fact, broke.""

Oh, shit!
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:39 PM
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1. Wolcott rules
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:35 PM
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2. Everyone is talking about their home equity
If you sell your home, where will you go? Your next home will give you less utility for your money and larger taxes.
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