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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:55 PM
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NO Hillary! Check this out on outsourcing! NO NO NO!
Hillary clears outsourcing air
Hillary Clinton made it apparent where she stood on outsourcing during her India visit, in an attempt perhaps to clear the Indian misgivings received during the Kerry campaign. "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue," she told an audience of Indian big-wigs. She pointed out that there were 3 billion people who feel left behind and are trying to attack the modern world in the hope of turning the clock back on globalization. "It is not far-fetched to imagine ... if the Indian miracle would be the one of choice of those who feel left behind," said Hillary.

Hillary has been at the forefront in defending free trade and outsourcing. During the height of the anti-outsourcing backlash in the US last year, she faced considerable flak for defending Indian software giant Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) for opening a center in Buffalo, New York. "We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences," Hillary said firmly, despite inevitably invoking the ire of the anti-free trade brigade.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:57 PM
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1. How would she like it if her job was outsourced?
She's another economic royalist posing as a Democrat
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:59 PM
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2. This is exactly why this DLC cow should NOT be considered
for any higher office. She is pro corporatist and anti labor.
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Yes, Hilly, there IS a way to legislate against the "reality" of corporate outsourcing due to massive greed. Just slap them with targeted and punitive tariffs if they expect to throw Americans out of work and then use America as their largest (or ONLY) market.

It's simple, honey, just takes the will to protect AMERICAN CITIZENS from the parasites that feed off them without wanting to give anything back.
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B0S0X87 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 08:02 PM
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9. I don't think it's that simple
A tariff would have the following consequences.

1. Raise prices in the U.S., thus hurting consumers.
2. Hurt companies that rely on the products the tariff is aimed at. Remember Bush ended the steel tariff he put into place in 2002 because of pressure from the industries it hurt; i.e. construction.
3. Other countries would reciprocate and place a high tariff on U.S. goods. Don't forget, one in five American jobs is dependent upon trade.

I don't like outsourcing, but I don't think protectionist measures like tariffs are the answer.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:02 PM
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3. She's morphed into a Reep. Flush her.
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GoSolar Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:12 PM
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4. Hillary is a major disappointment.
No money or support from the GoSolar team.
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Dancer Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:32 PM
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5. Important: About Hillary as duplicitous political opportunist
More about my NY senator-

From: http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript306_full.html

Bill Moyers interview with Elizabeth Warren (author of The Two Income Trap: Why Middle Class Mothers And Fathers Are Going Broke and teacher @ Harvard Law School)


WARREN: And she says, "Tell me about bankruptcy." And I got to tell you, I never had a smarter student. Quick, right to the heart of it. I go over the law. It's a complex law. Went over the economics. Showed her the graphs, showed her the charts. And she got it.

Within 20 minutes, she could play where the rest of it would come. Well, then that will mean this part's happened. That will mean this has happened. I said, "Yes, that's right." And at the end of the conversation, Mrs. Clinton stood up. She said, "Let's get our picture taken" which we did, and she said, "Professor Warren, we've got to stop that awful bill," referring to this bankruptcy bill that sponsored by the credit card companies.


She went back to White House, and I heard later from someone who is a White House staffer that there were skid marks in the hallways when Mrs. Clinton got back as people reversed direction on that bankruptcy bill. President…

MOYERS: That was supporting the industry. And because of her…

WARREN: President Clinton had been showing that this is another way that he could be helpful to business. It wasn't a very high visibility bill. And when Mrs. Clinton came back with a little better understanding of how it all worked, they reversed course, and they reversed course fast. And indeed, the proof is in the pudding.

The last bill that came before President Clinton was that bankruptcy bill that was passed by the House and the Senate in 2000 and he vetoed it. And in her autobiography, Mrs. Clinton took credit for that veto and she rightly should. She turned around a whole administration on the subject of bankruptcy. She got it.

MOYERS: And then?

WARREN: One of the first bills that came up after she was Senator Clinton was the bankruptcy bill. This is a bill that's like a vampire. It will not die. Right? There's a lot of money behind it, and it…

MOYERS: Bill, her husband, who vetoed…

WARREN: Her husband had vetoed it very much at her urging.

MOYERS: And?

WARREN: She voted in favor of it.

MOYERS: Why?

WARREN: As Senator Clinton, the pressures are very different. It's a well-financed industry. You know a lot of people don't realize that the industry that gave the most money to Washington over the past few years was not the oil industry, was not pharmaceuticals. It was consumer credit products. Those are the people. The credit card companies have been giving money, and they have influence.

MOYERS: And Mrs. Clinton was one of them as Senator.

WARREN: She has taken money from the groups, and more to the point, she worries about them as a constituency.

MOYERS: But what does this mean though to these people, these millions of people out there whom the politicians cavort in front of as favoring the middle class, and then are beholden to the powerful interests that undermine the middle class? What does this say about politics today?

WARREN: You know this is the scary part about democracy today. It's… We're talking again about the impact of money. The credit industry on this bankruptcy bill has spent tens of millions of dollars lobbying, and as their profits grow, they just throw more into lobbying for how they can get laws that will make it easier and easier and easier to drain money out of the pockets of middle class families.

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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 04:01 PM
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8. Thx for posting, yup Hillary is a member of the corporate party
How about Bill?

What's the worst thing he did in his term?

My vote is the China PNTR trade agreement...he ignored
human rights, he ignored environmental rights...he ignored
...my favorite

the trade agreement is like some sort of massive US giveaway.

Go read the thing...to sign it you must also be buying a bridge
in Brooklyn. It gives the Chinese everything, free industrial
secrets, free corporate partnerships, free technology.

It's absolutely unbelievable...

and makes me believe that the Clintons are not Democrats but
members of the corporate party...

and seemingly this corporate party has amazing ability to
put in politicians, get them to vote and introduce legislation
they want that's clearly in their interest and certainly not
in "America the nation"'s interest.

Look at the black and white results of those trade agreements...
America is hemorranging...yet they want to put in place even more
of them.

What's the big picture here? The US as a nation is now second class
to the corporate state? The "new world order" is multinational
corporations running the entire world stage show?

No more corporate party leaders, whether labeled Republican, Democrat , Socialist or Libertarian.

NO MORE CORPORATE PARTY!

Seriously this is a huge issue of how to regain power over corporations as a nation state...for as I see the US right now
is a real lackey for multinationals to the point of destroying the nation state.
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GoSolar Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:12 AM
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10. Thanks, Dancer.
This does not surprise me at all.
We need to replace her with a true progressive who represents the people of NY.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:33 PM
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6. Until she changes THIS tune..
I won't be supporting her for squat.

She just jumped the shark.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:05 PM
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11. She isn't going to change..
... this is who she is and has been for some time.

How anyone at DU could consider her presidential material is beyond me.
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:34 PM
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7. outsourcing
and just who in the hell is going to buy all this crap when the american people have RUN OUT OF CREDIT
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:28 PM
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12. Hillay receives "Weasel" award by tech group
www.itpaa.org
Tech Group Grants "Weasel Award" to Senator
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)


The IT Professionals Association of America
(ITPAA) has awarded its first Weasel Award of
2005 to Senator Hillary Clinton for her recent
remarks supporting outsourcing.
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