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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:32 PM
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Jim Di Eugenio: Did The Mob Kill JFK? In Review !!!!
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 08:55 PM by CTKA-Probe
http://www.ctka.net/reviews/mob_jfk.html

Here we go campers another offering from CTKA. The Mob did it theory has an interesting and rather deceitful history that few
are of. No one doubts some mob involvement but at a lower level. So sit back and have enjoy. Furthermore search the site and explore the many different and various articles from Jim and others that are there.

Jim's latest show can be heard on Black Op Radio. Check out Lens Archive and find Jims shows in which he appears fortnightly.

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2009.html


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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:39 PM
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1. It's more likely to have been done by the CIA....
and there is evidence that Lyndon Baines Johnson had a hand in it.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:48 PM
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4. what is the evidence of LBJ involvement?
I thought that was discounted.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:12 PM
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8. They discounted it, yes,
because it was an eye witness statement of what he said......and that witness was a mistress. One of many, by the way.

I don't think they should have discounted it; Johnson really hated the kennedy brothers and wanted the power.
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:12 AM
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19. Madeline Brown Be Wary Be Very Wary.
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 01:14 AM by CTKA-Probe
No I'm sorry for not putting this in an earlier post.

While its widely agreed that Brown was one of Johnsons many ladies.

The best researchers believe that Madeline Browns story of the party is considered bunk.

I am also of that opinion.

Its largely a Texas research community based assertion and of course

everything is bigger in Texas lol.

So be safe, be sure and seriously dont bother with it.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:24 PM
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10. I suspect you are using the word "evidence"
rather loosely here.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:07 AM
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17. circumstantial, hearsay.........
yes, I am. However, I suspect that it's closer to the truth than anyone wishes to believe. LBJ certainly had it in him...he was an interesting mix.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:46 PM
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2. It does have a classic mob signature.
Plan A. Standard Plan: Fall guy makes the shot. Police are tipped off to where the Fall guy is. Fall guy resists arrest. (Went according to script to that point. Oswald even killed a cop.) Fall guy is killed by police during arrest. (Investigation goes nowhere, Fall guy is dead.)
Except that in this case Fall guy didn't get killed.

Plan: OH SHIT! Mob has to quickly make sure Fall guy dies, before he starts talking. Ruby (Mob associate but not actual member) was selected. Ruby silences Fall guy. Ruby soon dies of cancer.

The mob has lots of motive. Robert Kennedy as AG was raising hell with the mob. The mob was angry at JFK for backing down on Bay of Pigs operation that was supposed to get their properties and operations in Cuba back.

Normally, I don't like conspiracy theories, but the mob being behind the JFK murder seems to fit.
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:37 AM
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21. So the CIA who have killed untold millions around the world doesnt?
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 01:57 AM by CTKA-Probe
The CIA used the mob to try and kill Castro okay.

Now I hate conspiracy theorists to.

But, Jim is not a conspiracy theorist nor does he endorse kooky or bogus Alex Jones or David Icke stuff.

Now thats conspiracy rubbish for you.

Check out CTKA and look at the mass of evidence he has amassed and you will take your first steps into a much larger world.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:39 AM
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22. Beyond my one post, I have no interest in playing with conspiracy theories. N/T
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:47 PM
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3. I've always thought J. Edgar had a lot of input maybe even did the hiring...n/t
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:10 PM
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7. You mean because Oswald was an informant for J Edna's FBI?
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 08:51 PM
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5. No........the agency responsible for his death was the same
agency that Kennedy wanted to "splinter into a thousand pieces",

but didn't get it done soon enough.


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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:01 PM
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6. Agreed. But they had plenty of help from some other three-letter
agencies.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:14 PM
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9. Who had some very strong connections to a certain head of the CIA
and is now thought of as the head of the bush crime syndicate. Just saying. Not sure what I think.
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:30 PM
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11. Johnson, Hoover , Bush and other duds.
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 09:56 PM by CTKA-Probe
Yeah, it looks like indviduals from within the CIA were involved.

Most researchers are coming to the consensus that the Dulles, Angelton, Helms and Phillips circle had something to do with it.

E Howard Hunts confession about the assassination naming Johnson as the key figure only in as much that he admitted involvement in the crime. Mark Lane had long established that Hunt had been in Dallas that day. Hunt who despised Kennedy and all he stood for would have gloated at laying the blame on Johnson.

Johnsons involvement in the plot is only advocated by a few diehards nowadays. Johnson gained from it and may well have known something was in the wind but there is no clear evidence of this. However, we do know that prominent people from the Eastern Establishment used CIA assets like Joseph Alsop to convince Johnson of appointing a Washington based blue ribbon panel, rather than the Texas one he proposed.

As for Hoover. Hoover, like Johnson may have known something was in the wind but was not involved in the planning. Yet he played a massive part in the cover up. Peter Dale Scott and Harrison Livingstone have expounded the rather faulty idea that he was involved but the weight of the evidence suggests that his role was the cover up.

As for Bush. Russ Bakers book is in error about many aspects of the Kennedy assassination. Jim Di Eugenio and I are going to do a review of this and John Hankeys god awful JFK II Dark legacy in the next few months. Bush if involved, was NOT a planner of the hit in any way shape or form nor was Prescott. This is one of the more worrying aspects about people coming at the assassination from a 9/11 mindset.


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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:09 AM
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18. The CIA was Prescott Bush's brainchild.........
And Bush Jr. was in the mix. There have been a lot of things about the BFEE simmering under the surface....the stuff is not hard to find, but it has been ignored.
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:18 AM
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20. Bush
Prescott Bush was one of the supporters of the CIA but he was not in any way the creator and founder of the agency.
Keep an eye out on CTKA in the next few months Jane for the run down on the Bush's and the Kennedy assassination.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:49 PM
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12. Another piece of fantasy from the CT echo chamber.
:boring:
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 09:56 PM
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13. -1
n/t
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 10:38 PM
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14. You may wanna read this about Vince Bugliosi.
http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/06/bugging-installment-one.html

Of course this may have been political manouvering by an opponent.

But when we combine this with the lies in Reclaiming History and a recently discovered memoranda that may well indicate

a relationship between Vince Bugliosi and David Atlee Phillips (a key figure in the Assassination) a rather disconcerting picture emerges.


Stopbush you should realise that Jim Di Eugenio rated Bugs book on Bush very highly and Bug himself was a fan of Jims magazine.

Theres also a ton of stuff on his website discrediting bit by bit Vince Bugliosis tome.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 10:48 PM
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15. I know all about the mutual admiration JDE & VB have had for each other.
Has nothing at all to do with the overwhelming evidence in the case.

FYI - Bugliosi isn't the person who gathered the evidence. His book simply makes a very strong case to believe the evidence as presented by the WCR and the HSCA while shooting down the crazed CTs pretty deftly.

Do I really need to go to JDE's website to read his attempts to discredit Bugliosi? I don't think so. It's usually along the lines of the kind of innuendo you're practicing here.
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CTKA-Probe Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:54 AM
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16. Yawnnnnnn. Innuendo your telling me about innuendo? With that logic I can now ignore your posts.
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 01:34 AM by CTKA-Probe

Your assuming via innuendo (rather hypocritically i might add) that Jim Di Eugenio believes bunk theories like David Liftons body alteration story and a host of others?

Now if you think that Jim endorses that junk you clearly havent read him so there is no point in talking to you. Bugliosi and Posner take apart easy targets like Madeline Brown and Lifton.

Note that Jim challenged Bug to a debate about his very reviews and Bugliosi never showed up, nor has be rebutted Di Eugenio himself in any way.

Goodbye.
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JuliaAntonelli Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:20 PM
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23. Bugliosi
Bugliosi and Phillips? What memorandum? Please tell!
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JuliaAntonelli Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:34 PM
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24. Documentation re: Bugliosi and Phillips
Somebody? Please? Very, very interested.
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