60 minutes reveals Bush Iraq lies that rest of media hide - Is Russia's

[papau]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/04/60minutes/main586841.shtml
60 Minutes

way to win elections the next 60 minutes show to reveal a possible interesting lead-in to 911 - something that taught Bush a lot?

In any case this was an amazing tale that other networks will ignore - traitors (Baathist murders chosen by Bush) in power, heroes arrested and held with out charges or contact with anyone (Bush seems to like this procedure) and all that is known is that the heroes objected to putting Saddam's torturers and murderers - the Baathists - back in power - and indeed had been selected by their local community as "city councilors" so as to bring that message to Bush and Bremer - so off to prison they go. From the report:


"Even though Ambassador Paul Bremer is on record saying that no high-ranking members of Saddam's old Baath Party will hold power in Iraq, in Karbala, the U.S. government is cooperating with Gen. Abud and has put him in charge of a well-armed force – even though he is a Baathist.

“The decision is Mr. Bremer's. He's the decision maker and he can make an exception,” says Abud.

Neither Ambassador Bremer nor the Marines would discuss any aspect of their role in Karbala."

Seems Bush lies to us and the US media - except for 60 minutes - lies or chooses to not tell us.

When you combine this with the way Putin got power in Russia in 2000 - by having the new KGB plant bombs in apartments, killing hundreds, and claiming that the Chet's rebels had done the evil - thereby getting the strong leader vote. It makes Bush's need to hide 911 info very interesting. But the Putin control of the media after it was proven that he and friends had faked the terror - because the next apartment bomb did not go off, the found the terrorist called home to the KGB to ask instructions and were told to get out of town the best they could - and when the shit hits the fan, Putin's replacement as head of the KGB admits everything and says it was an exercise in seeing if the town had good homeland security - and that the town did great!

And this "a fake terrorist were really KGG" story is known throughout Russia and Europe, and our media has said nothing.

Do you think they are afraid that if we saw that Putin was ready to kill thousands to win an election - and did - and got away with it - in 2000, we might think Bush might follow the same plan in 2001 - say on 9/11/2001?

Nah- unthinkable.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/04/60minutes/main586841.shtml
60 Minutes

[Nlighten1]

1. I want to know more about this Putin story.

This is news to me. Anyone have a link to more info on the new KGB planting bombs?

[papau]

2. C-span - the book on this was discussed - great discussion

just last week!

[mikehiggins]

3. About Russia

this story that is known throughout Russia and Europe? Would there happen to be any proof attached to it? You know, documents, photos, testimony, something that wouldn't show up in the Weekly Standard or Page 6 of the NY POST?

Just asking, cause Moscow is awfully far from here. Washington is a lot closer and we can't get the truth about what is going on there.

A million or so Albanians think Wes Clark saved their lives and some fans of Milosovec consider him a war criminal. Go figure.

I'd think you'd like the opportunity to support this remark about Putin (who probably is just a big a son of a bitch as he appears) but whose main crime seems to be putting a rich guy in jail who ripped off the Russian people by "obtaining" their oil industry and then violated a "gentlemen's agreement" not to interfere with politics.

Like so many American rich guys who seemed to like to advise him, the temptation to own his own country seems to have proven too much for him. Unlike the Bushes and other rich oil guys, though, he wasn't dealing with flaccid SEC and FEC regulators but old hands from the KGB. Poof! Go to jail, do not collect 200 rubles.

So there's another Moscow story. How much "truer" is that one than yours?

[papau]

4. Putin's War By Sergei Kovalev

I believe the c-span discussion of Putin's FSB(the new KGB)
and use of fake FSB terrorist to committ killings so Putin's vote was larger was actually a discussion of this book.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/225

Putin's War
By Sergei Kovalev