Greg PALAST on Randi-questioning stopping of exit polls and

[libbygurl]

discrepancy between those and votes in OH and NM.

"They've done it again, Randi!"

[Ducks In A Row]

1. He was cancelled off two NPR shows because he was going to tell

the truth, that Kerry won Ohio and New Mexico and it was stolen

[libbygurl]

2. I haven't renewed membership on PBS/NPR this year--and don't intend

to!

Palast is telling the TRUTH! Why did Kerry concede so quickly? I was hoping he wouldn't do another Gore-in-2000 again!

[burythehatchet]

3. Let me ask you a question

What would the media do to Kerry if, without an airtight case, he contested the election. They would have beaten him so bad that even when the truth comes out he would be crushed.

Now consider that is it inconsequential that Kerry "conceded". If/When electoral fraud is proved, by having played fair and not causing a constitutional crisis, Kerry all of a sudden is back in play.

[lanparty]

5. It will NEVER be proved!!!!

You don't understand the news networks. We had airtight proof in 2000 that Bush had stolen the election via Katherine Harris. Greg Palast tried DESPERATELY to get it on the air!!! They wouldn't air it.

They wouldn't air it because Gore had defined his case VERY narrowly. He didn't air grievances against voter purges. He didn't air grievances against systematic voter intimidation!!! He didn't challenge the the 16,000 votes lost to an electronic voting box in Volusia county right after the media called the state for Kerry!!!!

Gore was afraid of "looking crazy". He was afraid to make accusations that were plain as day in fear of how the media would portray him. Guess what .... IT DIDN'T MATTER. They portrayed Gore as nuts ANYWAY!!!!!

Those prescious 30 days was the ONLY time he would get any airtime. It was the ONLY time the media would play his words. It was the ONLY chance to air the full extent of election fraud in Florida.

Gore would have sacrificed some of his reputation by leveling these charges. It would have been a TREMENDOUS sacrifice for our nation!!!! This is what great people do, THEY SACRIFICE!!! They take care of our nation instead of taking care of THEMSELVES!!!!

Kerry has done us a tremendous dis-service by failing to take advantage of a platform to attack the electronic voting machines that delivered the 2000 Florida votes to Bush and the 2004 Ohio & Florida votes to Bush!!! He could have leveled the charges DIRECTLY!!! They would have been played. And THEN, the media would be forced to respond!!!!!

I'm DISGUSTED by Kerry!!! He's dead to me now!!!!

[lanparty]

4. I am PISSED at Kerry!!!!

Fuck his reputation!!!! He spoiled HIS OWN reputation by running such a weak knee'd campaign. Dammit, his ONLY value to us was to challenge the results of the touch screen voting machines.

Look, I could understand Al Gore 4 years ago. He fought like hell, and when it was over he wanted to retire with dignity. But dammit, the Repukes have only gotten bolder and DEMOCRATS SHOULD LEARN A LESSON!!!!

It's not that Kerry lost by a seemingly larger margin. It's that the Repukes have become more proficient at stealing EVEN MORE VOTES!!!!

He could have gone in a blaze of glory and been known as the saviour of Democracy. Now Kerry is just a chump. And his refusal to challenge this election only underscores the skull & bones connection.

This election was LOST on 9/12/04. Instead of going for Bush's jugular like an efficient party, we decided to throw our backing behind the president. We laid down and took it in the ass for fear of seeming too partisan!!!

No one can blame GW Bush for Osama plotting terrorist attacks. We CAN blame GW Bush for completely neglecting the terrorism issue and dropping our defenses so blatantly and completely that a big strike was INEVITABLE. We can blame GW Bush for NOT securing our country BEFORE 9/11. Failing to ACT ON 9/11. And failing to secure our nation against successive attacks AFTER 9/11!!!

If we had the same Kerry that jumped into the jungle to track down a man with a grenade launcher, we'd have one this election!!! This Kerry lost his fire!!! This Kerry ran not to lose!!! This Kerry is dead to me!!!

Finally, Democrats need to rapidly distance themselves AWAY from gay-marriage. Democrats need to vote FOR gay marriage amendments provided they do not rule out domestic partnerships!!! In fact, I think the first order of business for a LOT of Democrats should be INTRODUCING such legislation!!!!

I deeply regret that America isn't ready for gay marriage. But pushing this issue too fast has put Democrats on the defensive in Battle Ground states!!!! The people have spoken. They don't want it. And Democrats who REALLY want to win need to enforce order in their party and muzzle the radicals who won't accept generic partner benefits!!!! Otherwsie, we'll lose even worse in the NEXT election!!!

Sorry gay folks. Your lot will NOT improve anytime soon. I am sad that this is a fact. However, if you continue to empower Republicans with this rhetoric, you will find your lives LOT, LOT worse. I would be EVEN MORE sad to see that. But don't expect straight Democrats to lose their Democracy over your queerness!!!

When they deny you marriage rights I will be sad, but I won't act. In fact, I'll probably help them. When they come for you, I'll be there with a gun!!!! If they come for Islamic/Arab Americans, I'll be there as well. A movement must know how to suppress it's personal needs to the greater good. We no longer have the luxury of spare votes to waste on such issues!!!!

Finally, if Democrats CANNOT find the will to win in the coming years, the Democratic party is OVER!!!! And if this is the case, perhaps Ralph Nader was right all along!!!! Perhaps a new party uncorrupted by corporate greed is whats needed to restore the left. Perhaps the Democratic party should be replaced wholesale with Democracy For America.

I do know that it's do or die time for Democracy. GW Bush has set us down a facist/Orwellian path. The right has brainwashed a large portion of the population so that they cannot POSSIBLY digest another message or believe arguments of reason and compassion. It's time to PRIORITIZE!!! And our priority should be the preservation of Democracy at ANY cost!!!!