Dean is double talking on Executive Privilages

[a_lil_wall_fly]

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank11012003.html
http://www.judicialwatch.org/092503_PR.shtml
http://www.judicialwatch.org/Dean.pdf

If Dean want Executive Privilages for himself but not VP Cheney with his Energy Task Force. Not saying VP Cheney is not hiding anything but if Dean wants it then guess what then Dean should not complain or make statements about VP Cheney hiding stuff.
Open your records Gov. if you want people to believe in your ideas of transparencies with in the government.

Why oh why did Gov Dean request a ten year seal vs the last to Governors of Vt 6 years????

Dean stating in Public Radio show:
“Well, there are future political considerations. We didn’t want anything embarrassing appearing in the papers at a critical time in any future endeavor.”


“On September 15, 2003, Dean called on Vice President Cheney to ‘level with the American public’ and release the Cheney Energy Task Force records. While we appreciate Dean’s implicit support of our ongoing litigation on behalf of the American people’s interests in accountable and transparent government, we believe he should follow his own advice. Dean’s acting like he has something to hide. It’s time for Dr. Dean to come clean and release his papers,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

In a recent statement released by the organization, Judicial Watch quoted a letter that Vermont State Archivist Greg Sanford sent to the state's Governor's Council in 2002. In that note Sanford claimed that "ambition" is not an ample reason to block access to Government documents. He also pointed out that Vermont's Open Record Laws (V.S.A. § 315) clearly oppose such actions. As the law itself states, "It is in the public interest to enable any person to review and criticize decisions even though such examination may cause inconvenience and embarrassment."

[dsc]

1. Gee nice source

gonna quote Ken Starr next. For the record. Unlike Cheney you can find out who meant with Dean and when. Unlike Cheney, you can find out what Dean did and didn't do. All that is sealed is correspondence between him and his constituents, and correspondence between his staff and him.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

2. Why if it is only

is correspondence between him and his constituents, and correspondence between his staff and him.

Is he not wanting to let the world see? :think: about it

Cheney and company can say the same thing...(minus the constituents)!

:nopity: for Dean if he doesn't open his correspondence between him and his constituents, and correspondence between his staff and him. To show there is nothing that could be damaging to him or his campign.

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[tsipple]

4. By the way, some of those constituent letters...

...Deal with medical issues. He's a doctor, remember?

I don't need to know that Jane Doe in Rutland has AIDS, for example.

[w13rd0]

5. Perhaps you forget some of the issues he was dealing with...

...it's likely that some of the correspondence is of a very personal nature, and he'd rather spare his constituents the hate mail. Thanks for playing though...oh, and MINUS THE CONSTITUENTS...um, clue train...that's THE POINT. Cheney has contributors he's hiding communication with, Dean is protecting constituents.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

11. What topics is Dean

protecting his constituents on?

Like the article stated issues that might be an embarassment to him or others?

Vermont's Open Record Laws (V.S.A. § 315) clearly oppose such actions. As the law itself states, "It is in the public interest to enable any person to review and criticize decisions even though such examination may cause inconvenience and embarrassment."

[Padraig18]

6. Gov. Dean's constituents have a privacy expectation.

How would you feel if a letter with (perhaps) highly personal information about yourself were revealed to the public tomorrow? :eyes: As regards the remaining correspondence between the Governor and his staff, that is classified as 'work product', and if you want to see it, sue him--- a judge will decide. The legal *presumption* is that if he makes it unavailable for a reasonable length of time, then he is (theoretically) entitled to do so, and the burden is on you to show that he is not so entitled.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

8. Then don't complain

about any coverup/information holding under Bush then all corspondence with this admistration should have total privilege. IE: CIA leak, Cheney Energy Task Force, Sweet-heart Deals for Bush and Company Friends and Family in Iraq.

Let us waste our Tax money for the truth then.

What would transparencies in the government do.....empower the people to see what is going on and how it is going on---not the politicans and thier insider friends and thier employees and thier insider friends!!!!

[Padraig18]

12. The situations are not even remotely analogous.

Your 'one size fits all' solution doesn't.

[Demobrat]

7. 5% of Dean's stuff is sealed, and it's personal correspondence.

Unlike Cheney, he operated out in the open for 12 years. Anything you want to know about his public service is public record. Go look it up.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

9. Except for what Dean stated

“On September 15, 2003, Dean called on Vice President Cheney to ‘level with the American public’ and release the Cheney Energy Task Force records. While we appreciate Dean’s implicit support of our ongoing litigation on behalf of the American people’s interests in accountable and transparent government, we believe he should follow his own advice. Dean’s acting like he has something to hide. It’s time for Dr. Dean to come clean and release his papers."

[dsc]

10. There is a massive difference

between a meeting in a public office and the list of who has attended it and a letter written by a constituent do his or her governor.

[a_lil_wall_fly]

13. What if this letter had

hidden agenda to help out this person or Dean as governor?


:wtf:

[FarLeftRage]

14. What's the deal here making comparasions

with Dean and the "dickster"?

Are you saying they're the same type of person who abnormally craves secrecy??

[Cha]

15. It's so nice we have people coming on this board

and slinging that hash that any of our candidates compares to the "dickster"! :-(