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SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:09 PM
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The scariest thing * said
today was "there are people being put in place right now"that'll ensure his re-election.It's always the little things this guy says,like"a dictatorship would be easier"this country is in big trouble boys and girls.We can say(like some have already)"ah sofla you need to chill out" or we can try our best to stop this neo-con take-over of our democracy.It all comes down to the touch screen voting now,that is our biggest challenge or the '04 election will again be stolen from the American people by the "people bieng put in place already".
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:12 PM
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1. He actually said
(direct quote) that there are people being put in place that will assure his re-election??? I am not able to watch the press conference.
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SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:14 PM
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2. yup
I couldn't believe it-sometimes when he gets cocky he gives us a glimpse of his inner circles' thinking.
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SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:18 PM
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3. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
http://www.cleveland.com/election/index.ss...07171078040.xml

The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.

The letter went out the day before Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, also a Republican, was set to qualify Diebold as one of three firms eligible to sell upgraded electronic voting machines to Ohio counties in time for the 2004 election.

Blackwell's announcement is still in limbo because of a court challenge over the fairness of the selection process by a disqualified bidder, Sequoia Voting Systems.

In his invitation letter, O'Dell asked guests to consider donating or raising up to $10,000 each for the federal account that the state GOP will use to help Bush and other federal candidates - money that legislative Democratic leaders charged could come back to benefit Blackwell.

They urged Blackwell to remove Diebold from the field of voting-machine companies eligible to sell to Ohio counties.

This is the second such request in as many months. State Sen. Jeff Jacobson, a Dayton-area Republican, asked Blackwell in July to disqualify Diebold after security concerns arose over its equipment.

"Ordinary Ohioans may infer that Blackwell's office is looking past Diebold's security issues because its CEO is seeking $10,000 donations for Blackwell's party - donations that could be made with statewide elected officials right there in the same room," said Senate Democratic Leader Greg DiDonato.

Diebold spokeswoman Michelle Griggy said O'Dell - who was unavailable to comment personally - has held fund-raisers in his home for many causes, including the Columbus Zoo, Op era Columbus, Catholic Social Services and Ohio State University.

Ohio GOP spokesman Jason Mauk said the party approached O'Dell about hosting the event at his home, the historic Cotswold Manor, and not the other way around. Mauk said that under federal campaign finance rules, the party cannot use any money from its federal account for state- level candidates.

"To think that Diebold is somehow tainted because they have a couple folks on their board who support the president is just unfair," Mauk said.

Griggy said in an e-mail statement that Diebold could not comment on the political contributions of individual company employees.

Blackwell said Diebold is not the only company with political connections - noting that lobbyists for voting-machine makers read like a who's who of Columbus' powerful and politically connected.

"Let me put it to you this way: If there was one person uniquely involved in the political process, that might be troubling," he said. "But there's no one that hasn't used every legitimate avenue and bit of leverage that they could legally use to get their product looked at. Believe me, if there is a political lever to be pulled, all of them have pulled it."

Blackwell said he stands by the process used for selecting voting machine vendors as fair, thorough and impartial.

As of yesterday, however, that determination lay with Ohio Court of Claims Judge Fred Shoemaker.

He heard closing arguments yesterday over whether Sequoia was unfairly eliminated by Blackwell midway through the final phase of negotiations.

Shoemaker extended a temporary restraining order in the case for 14 days, but said he hopes to issue his opinion sooner than that.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:41 PM
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4. in my county in PA
the new machines are Sequoia. There is no paper trail.

Does anybody have any info on the ownership, security, etc. of these machines?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:40 PM
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7. Request an absentee ballot.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:08 PM
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5. Dean is one of those people.
The Dean and Bush families are very intertwined. They have very similar philosophies and the Republicans win either way. HOwever, Dean is expected to self-destruct after the primaries. It is expected that when he goes down, so will the Congressional candidates. From the polls, it looks like we are seeing the death of the Democratic Party and the rise of a one party state.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:23 PM
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6. Dean=Bush.
...it looks like we are seeing the death of the Democratic Party and the rise of a one party state.

Dean is only attacking Bush everyday as a ruse. Bait and switch.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:


Dean=Bush. Write it down everyone. Live it. Believe it. Worship it.




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