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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 07:44 AM
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Bustamante Has Big Lead on Schwarzenegger (gop split 3 ways)
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Bustamante Has Big Lead on Schwarzenegger

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/recall/la-me-poll24aug24,1,7382768.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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As the sole major Democrat running to replace Davis — should the incumbent be ousted Oct. 7 — Bustamante enjoys the support of 35% of likely voters, the poll found.

Schwarzenegger received the support of 22%, followed by three fellow Republicans: state Sen. Tom McClintock of Thousand Oaks with 12%, businessman Peter V. Ueberroth with 7% and Bill Simon Jr. — the GOP's 2002 gubernatorial nominee — with 6%.

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Poll Analysis: Let the Campaigns Begin…
The ballot is still confusing to voters.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/recall/la-me-poll24aug24-486pa2an.story

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Arnold Schwarzenegger started running his TV ads and introducing his economic advisors during the last two days of polling and the survey shows that in the last two days of interviewing, there was an uptick in votes for Schwarzenegger.

Two thirds of likely Democratic voters say they would vote for Bustamante as do 64% of liberal voters and 74% of liberal Democrats. Only 51% of Latino likely voters would vote for the Lt. Gov. Unions members are not overly enthused about Bustamante — 39% of union members would vote for him. Nearly three out of five Democrats who voted no on the recall also voted for Bustamante. Likely Republican voters have splintered their vote in support of the four major GOP candidates — 39% of Republicans would vote for Schwarzenegger, 21% for McClintock, 12% for Simon, and 10% for Ueberroth. More than two out of five conservative Republicans would vote for Schwarzenegger, 28% for McClintock and 14% for Simon. More than a third of moderate Republican voters would support Schwarzenegger and surprisingly, a quarter would vote for Bustamante, the sole major Democrat.

Republicans make up about 35% of the registered voters in the state, while Democrats make up 45% of registered voters. However, the Times Poll suggests a disproportionate number of Republican voters are likely to actually take part in the recall election — 43% of the turnout, with Democrats making up 45%. This recall hinges on the voters who decide to vote.

During the poll’s snapshot in time, Bustamante voters are more certain about their vote than voters for the other candidates tested. Two-thirds of the Lt. Gov.’s voters definitely will vote for him, compared to 54% of Schwarzenegger’s voters. Although four out of five likely voters suggest that having Bustamante running as the only Democratic candidate does not affect their getting out to vote on October 7th, nearly a fifth say that fact motivates them to get out to vote, including more than a fifth of Democrats. And among these likely Democratic voters who are motivated to vote , 79% would vote for the Lt. Gov. (and 79% would vote no on the recall). Among all likely voters motivated to get out to vote, 46% would vote for the Lt. Gov. and another 47% would vote no on the recall (but 48% would vote yes).

Arnold Schwarzenegger has basically the same effect on voters as Cruz Bustamante. More than seven out of 10 likely voters say that having the actor on the ballot does not affect their vote one way or the other, but slightly more than a quarter says it motivates them to get out to vote, including 25% of Republicans. Among likely Republican voters who are energized to vote because Schwarzenegger is on the ballot, nearly three out of five of them would vote for the actor and another 89% would vote for the recall.

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RealityDose Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 09:44 AM
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1. Arnold Arnold Arnold
What I am wondering is why the major news services never reported on a single Republican candidate except Arnold. There first time I saw anything on Simon was Saturday when he dropped out. Hmmm, wonder why? I am probably out of line since we do not get to vote, just Californians. I guess with paid ads, everybody gets their voice heard in California. Just would be nice if the major news would cover Bustamante or any other candidate for more than 30 seconds. I am sure Kobe is willing to give up his news time for other candidates.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 09:54 AM
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2. Bustamente needs to nail down the base more
That only 2/3rds of Dems will vote for him is not a good sign even though he is ahead. He needs to nail them down to win.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 12:32 PM
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5. All we need are the Dems to win
In a special election like this, all we need are the Dems turn out full force for one cadidate in order to win. We don't need independents, we don't need Republican moderates, we don't need Greens (they're voting for Camejo/Huffington anyways) we just need Democrats and I think Cruz would be wise to reach out to the base with liberal solutions to problems, and a liberal platform. Since he's the only major Dem running, he has a natural advantage.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 04:14 PM
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8. True.
This is usually not the case at all, but this is a very abnormal election. First of all, the turnout will not be that good; plus, there are like 150 candidates or something. So most likely, independents will barely vote in this election, and the Republican vote will be split among various candidates. In this case, we need only the base.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 10:12 AM
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3. More importantly,
"No" on recall is up to 45%.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 12:05 PM
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4. good news
Simon's out now, but most of his supporters will go to McClintock. And opposition to the recall is up, and a bunch of freepers have said they'll vote no on the recall if Bustamante is leading Arnold.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 12:45 PM
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6. Bustamante has a great economic plan, and schwarzenegger has...
Well nothing. Bustamante has a clearly defined plan to raise taxes on I belive cigarettes and alcohol as well as income taxes somewhat. He also said that the taxes would be what they were when Ronald Reagan was governor. I don't see how Republicans could argue with that. Don't see how Republicans can argue against that, especially since that was what 30 years ago.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 06:41 PM
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9. Bustamante is LOWERING taxes and fees for 90% or 96% of Californians
Edited on Sun Aug-24-03 06:42 PM by AP
It's only the top 4% (?) who will have taxes raised, and those are the same people who just got huge tax breaks from Bush. So they're just being asked to pull their weight (for CA, rather than the Federales this time) again. That's very reasonable.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 02:39 PM
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7. this poll is encouraging but nothing to become complacent about.
Undoubtedly the extra republicans will drop out and the republican dirty campaigning hasn't even started yet in California.
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