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hrhjustin Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:42 AM
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Kerry/Dean or Dean/Kerry
Ideas on this
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:46 AM
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1. I don't think it would work
I think having two people from the Northeast would be a hard sell.

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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:46 AM
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2. Neither will happen....
1. They don't like each other
2. Two Northeastern Democrats on the same ticket would have no geographic appeal anywhere else....
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:47 AM
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3. Kerry/Dean
Possibly the right mix of experience and enthusiasm?

I think it would be the stronger pairing, with the caveat that a John Edwards night make a good (Southern) VP candidate...

TB
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:47 AM
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4. Not good fits.
Two northeastern white males?

Dean already laid out criteria for his vice presidential nominee -- it sounds like he is going with someone like Landrieu, Richardson, Clark, Graham, et cetera.

Kerry would probably do the same, being from the same region and especially having a far more liberal record than Dean.
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ScotTissue Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:52 AM
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5. Graham's already clinched the VP slot
IMHO, Graham has already clinched the VP slot by virtue of being a Floridian.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:57 AM
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6. I concur
If Dean, Kerry, or even Lieberman gets the nomination, Graham is going to be asked to be the VP. Gephardt may consider Dean as VP material. Edwards would be a great VP for any of them.

I wonder if Dean would accept a VP position. Kerry wouldn't. He's a all or nothing kind of guy.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:07 AM
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7. Clark Will Go To One, Graham To The Other
Security is going to be the foundation of the race, upon which the economy, healthcare, and energy independence will be laid.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:23 AM
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8. I think a Kerry/Dean ticket would be a very good idea.
I love what Dean has done for the debate and the party (he's inspired a great deal od Wellstone-esque soul searching).

I don't know if he is electable and I lean towards Kerry but I would hate to lose the energy that Dean has unleashed.

In a recent CNN web article Dean is quoted:

Dean said that he would not launch an independent campaign for president should one of the other Democrats get the nod at next year's convention.

"I will support the nominee," he said. "It is essential that George Bush not be re-elected for the future of this country. It is essential for our economy. It's essential, so we can regain the respect we had around the world."

"Any one of (the Democratic candidates) would be better than the president they have now," he said. "But what our party really has to have is some backbone."


Maybe the rift between Kerry and Dean can be mended- I'm really beginning to feel that this is a winnable election. We don't need pride and arrogance within the party (on both sides) to blow a possible good thing.

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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:29 PM
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11. True
Graham has been jockeying for the VP, not the presidential slot.
He and Kerry are tight, close friends and this is they way it will go.
The DLC will end up backoing ONE candidate, as themost electable, likely Kerry, and will leave Dean to twist in the wind, trying to fight both Bush and the Party itself. It is odd that the DLc is somehow trying to "ACCEPT" Kerry as someone they can run as a moderate. Indictive of his very leftist record as Senator.
But he is by far more electable, and they will hold every other candidates delegates in reserve until the last days before the nomination and throw all their weight behind that one candidate to take Dean out. No one believes Dean can win, nad that is WORLDWIDE opinion. British journals, all over Europe, Dena is vires as a poipular phenomenon whos hurts the party, more than helps it.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:51 AM
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9. Neither would be willing to take the VP slot
Neither would be willing to take the VP slot. Graham or Clark would be good for either.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 04:50 PM
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10. Dean/Kerry
It's better if the candidates like each other, at least at the start. Most of them don't like each other by the end of the campaign anyway. I'm not sure about the Northeast factor, that does seem important- and agree that Graham is a stronger bet for all those reasons. But nobody is energizing things as much as Dean, so dunno. My problem is, I just don't like doctors.
Also, I just wish we could establish the dem nominee alot sooner, so that we could actually start working on the campaign instead of perseverating over which candidate is better. It seems that we are losing time this way.
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