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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:01 PM Original message |
Will a Kerry win in Iowa hurt Clark's chances in NH and elsewhere? |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. We can only hope...Dean vs. Kerry would be a MUCH BETTER deal |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Actually, I think only Kerry can claim that mantle... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:19 PM Original message |
WWW replaces ABB - whoever will win is my guy! |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Didn't see Dean opposing those Republicans BEFORE this.... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Besides, Dean can't beat Bush |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Sounds like sour grapes to me |
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thedudeingeorgia (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kerry win in Iowa?? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. When was the last time a General won the White House? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The last time one ran? |
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joefree1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Kennedy and Eisenhower? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I stand corrected, your right, it's really not that relevant. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Just to be clear, I'm now seeing Dean supporters argue that a loss in IA |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Sweet Lemons |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Make Lemonade |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. only if you throw in a little imaginary sugar to take away from the bitter |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. The sugar is rest for my candidate. AHHHH |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Tell me do you expect Edwards to win Iowa? |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Less focus on Dean? Most candidates love media attention, good or bad |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Well good the others will have time to bask in the media LOVE for a while |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Do you mind explain the Trippi quote to me? |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. I've noticed that too. It's silly. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. From the south, military and strong on defense, no political baggage=win |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. There's plenty of baggage on Clark. Just wait and see.... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. If you're going to make a charge, back it up. |
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windansea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kerry or Gep 1st & 2nd |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's really sad that one could be so practically deluded |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Trust me, it's good for Dean either way. I'm already lovin it. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. But that's what's happening now. Now people are getting a look at all the |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. People have not gotten an HONEST look at anyone but Dean, and that |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Edwards has trippled his support because of the look people have gotten in |
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returnable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. self-deleted |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Trippi is saying the same thing. Just read in another post that he thinks |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. The winner of the Iowa Primary hasn't won an election since 1972 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Has the person who was the front runner for 9 months before IA, who |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. The media has trashed Dean to kingdome come. I've never seen a media |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. I'll take your word for it. However, I'd note that there was a claim |
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Kukla (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. If we look to past history, yes. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Iowa certainly sets the pace, yes. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes and No |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yes but some people in NH might take a second look at Kerry |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Agreed. I was factoring that in. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. The only problem with your later scenario Tom is that |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. An honest disagreement then |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I'm sure we differ on how solid the baggage is, but we couldn't possibly |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The media had a one month feeding frenzy on Clark's "baggage" |
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returnable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. Perhaps... |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. The only problem with your last scenario MZ is that people are now |
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Kukla (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Don't count Edwards out, either. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. We can't afford to count anybody out at this point. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. I don't count Edwards out |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't think Iowa is going to have that big of an effect on N.H. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Actually your later scenario is incorrect based on history |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sweet lemons :-) |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Make Lemonade |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. Don't think anyone's chances will be hurt |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
34. I think the real surprise will come if Clark beats both Dean and Kerry in |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Have you heard anything concrete? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Clarks been putting all his eggs in the NH basket, I'm not surprised |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Who'll Catch Up and How? Dean is slipping in both Iowa and N.H. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yep, probably. Tactically, tho, it mostly weakens Dean & helps Kerry. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I Agree. Kerry Will Only Make Clark Have To Work A Little Harder |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
50. I presume the Kerry IA win spec is based on recent polls. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
53. LYING TO YOURSELF WON'T HELP YOUR CANDIDATE |
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adam gibson (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
55. Clark and Madonna |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. yes but |
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