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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:01 AM
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How many new voters has Dean signed up?
The strength of the Dean campaign is the solid grassroots support and all of the new voters they have signed up.

How many new voters has the Dean campaigned signed up?

Thanks in advance...
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:15 AM
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1. Well, tons in my area.
Not to mention turning dozens upon dozens of Independents into registered Democrats.

Just remember, there are laws against one campaign actively registering voters. If you register voters, you can not do it on behalf of a campaign, at least not in my state.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:22 AM
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2. how many is "tons"?
1,000 new voters? 10,000 new voters? What area are you in?

Is it really illegal for a campaign to register voters?
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:30 AM
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3. I don't know if they are actually registering
But they are being bussed into Iowa to crash the Caucasus.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:46 AM
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5. Thank you for repeating gossip. n/t
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:54 AM
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9. Yeah!
And they're being issued hand grenades to throw at the campaign headquarters of the other candidates.

I hear that Dean has officially said that it is OK to kill children and rape women.

Jealous much?
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:57 AM
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12. That's not true
I have been to the Dean Meet-ups organizing the volunteer grassroots effort in Iowa and other states. Have you? I can tell you exactly what the volunteers that are coming into the state are being asked to do. Dean has 4-5000 volunteers coming in from around the country (our Philly4Dean group has 2 buses going!). They are being trained to go door-to-door and tell people about Dean and to encourage them to caucus. They will also be manning phone banks, going to events to run issues tables and the like. That's called grassroots activism. I've done it locally for several campaigns, and nobody ever derided me for getting involved before.

The amazing thing about the Dean campaign is the massive grassroots effort he has inspired. I think that's a good thing. Getting people excited about a candidate again. Getting young people involved in politics and caring about issues. Getting ordinary people so fired up that they are taking off time from work to spend 24 hours on a bus so they can campaign for the person they believe in. All good things in my opinion.

You know, the nastiness of some Clark supporters has seriously made me question my support for Clark as my number 2 choice. I haven't bashed your candidate or anyone else's. Nor will I. Maybe you guys could consider toning down the vitriol, which I personally reserve for the Bush Cabal.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:31 AM
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17. Even Dean admits the number is more like 3500.
"Dean has 4-5000 volunteers"

Lets just get the facts straight. Even Trippi has revised that number.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:37 AM
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19. Nitpick if that's your forte
it's no less impressive. Now YOU say it!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:42 AM
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22. Please quit the lies, TrueAmerican. (n/t)
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 11:42 AM by w4rma
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:30 AM
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4. Well....
The message is that there are known knowns— there are things that we know that we know. There are known unknowns— that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns— there are things we do not know we don't know. And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:17 AM
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14. hmm
was that related, or are you just channeling your name-sake? :evilgrin:
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:53 AM
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8. Would I lie?
I live in the Triangle area of NC. We've participated in voter registration drives, but the laws regarding voter registration are fairly strict in NC.

We've seen to the registration of more than one hundred voters.

Why are you singling out Dean, BTW?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:56 AM
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11. "more than one hundred"
I'm not singling Dean out, your campaign singles itself out. Dean has talked about all the new people he brought into the process, and how they aren't going to be as excited voting for a Washington politician (I would think he's 100% right about that). Dean fans here constantly talk about the grassroots support and all the new voters.

So in the Triangle, the most heavily populated area of North Carolina, the Dean campaign has registered "more than one hundred" new voters?

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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:30 AM
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16. I'm talking about Durham County
And I reiterate that this is independent of the campaign itself. Dean supporters do registration drives, but not as Dean supporters. And I'm giving you the figure based solely on the events I've been to. Which is a tiny minority.

But voter registration is not at the top of our list anyway. We're still working to get the 10,000 signatures Dean needs in order to be on the primary ballot in NC, if there IS a primary. NC is just another state written off by Kerry.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:51 AM
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6. If you want an exact number,
nobody will really have a good idea until votes are counted.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:52 AM
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7. a ballpark figure would be nice
Surely the Dean campaign has a count of the new people they have brought into the process? I would expect each state organization to have totals? Anyone have a link to the info on the blog?

Thanks.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:56 AM
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10. How would you expect the Dean campaign to acquire this data?
And why is the Dean campaign being singled out?

Oh, I know. Because every other candidate has made this election about Dean. One more reason why Dean will win.

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:59 AM
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13. Dean singled himself out, along with his campaign
Because YOU people say that they strength of your campaign is the grassroots numbers and all the "new people we've brought into the process".

Frankly, I doubt that Kerry or Clark has registered too many, if any, new voters. I would expect Dean to be the leader on this.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:28 AM
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15. You misunderstand him, but it's OK
First of all, "The process" is more than voter registration. And the truth of his statement can NOT be denied. I've never been this involved in the process this early. And that's what I hear from a majority of the people I meet at Dean events. I know people who gave up politics decades ago only to come back thanks to Dean. I know people who sat out the last election who support Dean. And then there are people like me who have always voted but have never done anything more productive.

And it goes beyond that as well. I don't see Kerry or Clark talking about precinct organization and getting more involved in your local party. Only Dean. Win or lose, Dean has inspired people to become members of their community again. That will be his legacy.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:34 AM
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18. Do you think Dean campaigners should demand their meet-up
members to prove they are newly registered because of Dean? How would Dean garner that priviliged information?

A lot of the people being brought back into the process have always been registered one way or another, but haven't been participating because of all the vicious lying that goes on in politics these days. Dean doesn't have to prove to anyone that he got someone to register...his thousands of participants and donors across the country are the proof.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:26 PM
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20. no, of course not
I figured this would be an opportunity for the Dean fans to brag about their massive numbers of new voters. I didn't realize it was a sore spot.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:33 PM
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24. yeah
I've brought this question up before to much derision from Dean supporters. I guess we are just supposed to take it on faith. Personally, I suspect that most Dean fans voted democrat in 2000.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:38 PM
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21. I'd like to know too
This is the reason everybody is supposedly endorsing Dean, all these new voters in the Democratic Party. I would have thought I'd have seen an article somewhere about tons of new voter registrations. Nothing so far. I do have one antecdotal report from AZ that says they've had 100, but most were party switchers. We'll see I guess.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:14 PM
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23. I don't know about anyone else
But in my county we have registered hundreds, added new precinct committee people to our Democratic party and have 7 people in Iowa right now. The people who have returned tell us they were either phone banking or walking long hours going door to door.They come home exhausted but excited about the campaign.

We have an odd mix that I am sure that more Dean groups have. Lots of people registering for the first time of all ages and then people changing party affliliation. First it was the Libertarians, Independents and Greens, now its the Republicans. You think Howard Dean is pissed, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Those moderate Republicans are outraged.:mad:
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:32 PM
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25. I've been wondering about this
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:36 PM
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26. How many that have left have been removed from his list?
I've never seen his happy little supporters ticker go down.
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