Keep this in mind, folks

[Mairead]

It was created by Brits, not partisan USAians. Their goal was to accurately reflect reality, nothing more.

[corporatewhore]

1. i allready knew that

dennis rocks

[Frodo]

2. Keep THIS in mind.

The european definition of "left" and "right" do not match ours.

There is no "objective" standard for "center" and ours isn't where theirs is.

For example: Carol Mosley Braun is NOT right-of-center...

[Mairead]

3. "The european definition of "left" and "right" do not match ours."

Yes, I know. They don't align the center of their scale to the right of Nixon. They actually have more than one political party.

[CTLawGuy]

4. how is Dean not on the Libertarian side of the scale

he supports states rights on guns, opposes the Patriot Act.

And Dennis is libertarian? No libertarian opposes NAFTA or the WTO.

The problem with anlyses like these is they don't use comprehensive questionnaires. With the right questions you can make anyone look like anything.

Do you have a link to this?

[JohnKleeb]

5. He's a civil libertarian

I guess you could say. That's a good question but :shrug:
Ive taken that test and I am way to the left like negative 7 on both economic and social which means I am extreme left in britain too.

[Mairead]

6. Perhaps you should check out their site...'libertarian' doesn't mean

what you think it means.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/usprimaries.html

[drfemoe]

14. Do you have a link to this?

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/

[JohnKleeb]

7. Ive actually have became more left

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-8.62&Y=-8.15
Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15

[Nadienne]

15. Thanks for the link!

I am Economic Left/Right: -8.50
and
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97 (Musta been that good Catholic/small town Iowa upbringing...)

[JohnKleeb]

17. our party needs to change on economics

I like social liberalism, but I want a change in economics :), thats why I love Dennis K.

[wanderingbear]

8. If your sayin Dean is part of the Athoritarian Right..

I just dont see it..

[DemBones DemBones]

9. Go to the site and read. You might also note

that ALL the candidates except Kucinich and Sharpton are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant along with Dean. Only Kucinich and Sharpton are classified as Left Libertarian, and Libertarian doesn't mean what you think it does.

[mikehiggins]

10. According to this Clark is more leftwing than Dean

and more libertarian. Carol, Kerry, Dennis and Al are all more leftwing and libertarian than Clark, and Gephardt is more to the left by a bit, but much more authoritarian.

Dean, Lieberman, Gephardt, Graham, Edwards and Bush are all more authoritarian

Interesting graph.

[maxr4clark]

11. Clark is a social liberal

...and that is reflected here. The difference between him and the other generals is that he advocated using American influence (diplomacy and, if necessary, force) for _humanitarian_ reasons, rather than political/economic dominance. He has been very consistent on that, for many years; it is one of the reasons I am glad he is running.

Clark's answers on questions about gays in the military are excellent examples of a socially liberal perspective, thoughtfully presented. He says we should first adopt the perspective that the person whose rights are in question is important to us, like a son or a daughter, and then answer the question from that perspective.

Look past the uniform and see the man wearing it. He's a private citizen now, and is showing the concern for human life and suffering that his career in the military taught him.

Thanks for your post, mikehiggins. This post isn't in response to you, but in support.

[rdfi-defi]

16. clark advocated using american force for "humanitarian reasons"

with respect, i must ask you to do some extra reserch on the war in yugoslavia. the political and economic factors that were not explained by the US corporate media are many. the decision to bomb, kill and displace innocent civilians in the area was anything but "humanitarian."

a good place to start would be to look at the former yugoslavia's economic and social progams that were in place during the cold war. most states with this type of system are not allowed to exist, per US forien policy. cold war ends, US policy...
.....

please look at the war and general clark's comand strategies in detail

[maxr4clark]

12. Brits are partisan too

It was created by partisan Brits, not partisan Americans. R*pert M*rdoch isn't a partisan American, but he sure is one partisan Aussie.

[Sean Reynolds]

13. And ontheissues.org places them ALL left of center:

Some of the candidates:

Wesley Clark

Candidate's Score

The candidate scored the following on the VoteMatch questions:


Personal Score 63%
Economic Score 20%


Where the Candidate Fits In

Where the candidate's Personal score meets the Economic score on the grid below is the candidate's political philosophy. Based on the above score, the candidate is a Populist-Leaning Liberal.

http://www.issues2002.org/VoteMatch/candidate_map.asp?a1=1&a2=1&a3=2&a4=2&a8=2&a9=5&a10=3&a5=3&a6=5&a7=4&a14=5&a15=1&a16=4&a19=2&a17=2&a18=2&a20=1&a11=1&a12=5&a13=4&i1=1&i2=1&i3=1&i4=1&p=63&e=20&t=16

Howard Dean

Candidate's Score

The candidate scored the following on the VoteMatch questions:


Personal Score 70%
Economic Score 28%

http://www.issues2002.org/VoteMatch/candidate_map.asp?a1=1&a2=1&a3=1&a4=5&a8=1&a9=4&a10=5&a5=2&a6=4&a7=2&a14=5&a15=1&a16=2&a19=5&a17=2&a18=2&a20=1&a11=2&a12=5&a13=2&i1=1&i2=1&i3=1&i4=1&p=70&e=28&t=21

Where the Candidate Fits In

Where the candidate's Personal score meets the Economic score on the grid below is the candidate's political philosophy. Based on the above score, the candidate is a Hard-Core Liberal.

John Kerry

Candidate's Score

The candidate scored the following on the VoteMatch questions:


Personal Score 70%
Economic Score 33%


Where the Candidate Fits In

Where the candidate's Personal score meets the Economic score on the grid below is the candidate's political philosophy. Based on the above score, the candidate is a Libertarian-Leaning Liberal.

http://www.issues2002.org/VoteMatch/candidate_map.asp?a1=1&a2=1&a3=1&a4=4&a8=2&a9=4&a10=5&a5=5&a6=5&a7=5&a14=5&a15=3&a16=1&a19=5&a17=4&a18=2&a20=2&a11=1&a12=5&a13=2&i1=1&i2=1&i3=1&i4=1&p=70&e=33&t=22

Dennis Kucinich

The candidate scored the following on the VoteMatch questions:


Personal Score 53%
Economic Score 20%


Where the Candidate Fits In

Where the candidate's Personal score meets the Economic score on the grid below is the candidate's political philosophy. Based on the above score, the candidate is a Liberal Populist.

http://www.issues2002.org/VoteMatch/candidate_map.asp?a1=4&a2=1&a3=1&a4=3&a8=1&a9=4&a10=5&a5=5&a6=4&a7=5&a14=5&a15=3&a16=5&a19=1&a17=5&a18=1&a20=2&a11=1&a12=5&a13=4&i1=1&i2=1&i3=1&i4=1&p=53&e=20&t=11

You can find all them here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

From that list, Dean is the only hard-core liberal. The rest tend to be liberal populists, while a few more moderate than all. THIS also gives you reason to why they placed them on the chart.