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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:08 AM
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new Georgia poll - Dean holds double-digit lead
October results in parenthesis.

Dean 18.8 (7.4)
Gephardt 7.5 (11.5)
Someone Else 6.8 (1.6)
Clark 6.5 (13.1)
Sharpton 5.6 (3.3)
Lieberman 5.5 (9.0)
Kerry 2.7 (4.9)
Moseley Braun 2.6 (5.4)
Edwards 1.9 (3.8)
Kucinich 0.2 (0.8)
Not Sure 42.1 (39.1)

Dec 15-16. n=277 likely primary voters. MOE±6.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/1203/19dempoll.html
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:24 AM
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1. Edwards at 1.9 is shocking.
Maybe I'd better scratch him as my dark horse, seeing as how it completely depended on him doing well in the South.
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DLCfromGA Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:47 PM
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19. GA
The crowd will thin out by the time GA rolls around, and I bet most GA democrats will choose a Clark over a Dean...

Just like Dems chose Majette over McKinney...

GA is an open primary system... without a GOP primary, expect a lot of crossover votes against Dean
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:40 AM
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2. Wow, Clark's plummeting.
Must be that electability thing.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:15 PM
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8. They all are. Except Dean and Sharpton,
they all lost support!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:44 AM
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3. Great news! Thanks. eom
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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:45 AM
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4. But Dean can't appeal to southern voters!
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 03:47 AM by OrAnarch
:)


This is good news for the Dean campaign. He is definately turning it up. Recent talks from him and speeches on c-span are definately earning my respect and attention. Still, Ive yet to make up my mind regarding the election.


BTW, This unelectable crap is utter bullshit made up by the opposition (beltway democrats and republicans). The only reason he doesn't poll well against Bush is because other candidates' supporters will vote for almost any other democrat in the race other than Dean, which is due to the democratic rhetoric from the other candidates. Lies spread to save their campaign that are aimed at tearing down the frontrunner, which does nothing more than split their supporters from the normal democratic base should he be elected. He isn't a disaster waiting to happen, but rather a disaster is being slowly built and constructed recklessly by his opposition. But times are early, and such easily influenced minds can just as easily hear his message.


From the electable standpoint, Im seeing bout every outcome being a polarized split, and probably a near loss for the dems. With him, I think its a chance...either he will win big or lose big. A chance people should be wiling to take. But oh well....lets let the pundits decide, eh?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:31 PM
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17. LOL
you forgot to compare him to Goldwater, Mondale, McGovern, Dukakis, yada yada yada ;)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 09:42 AM
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5. Awesome news for the Gov from New England
And Clark! What can I say? Where's his Southern appeal? I mean Gephardt and Someone Else are beating him.

Oh, and Kerry! You're behind Sharpton. This poll proves that a Yankee with a inclusive message, like Dean's, has a great chance to win in the South.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 10:52 PM
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6. Not Sure beats Dean
By nearly 24%. Doesn't mean diddly for Dean.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:11 AM
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14. of course it does
it means that there is movement toward Dean and movement away from some of the other candidates.

That is not insignificant.
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exotrip Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 07:41 PM
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7. irrelevant
Note the extremely small sample size. This poll is practically useless. I mean, a 6 point margin of error? And the undecideds are 42%. Once again, Unnamed Democrat shoots to the top :)
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jadesfire Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:34 PM
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10. Thank You!!!
People get all wrapped up in these polls that mean absolutly nothing. The overwhelming majority of voters do NOT make up their minds until the last week of the election. And a 6 point +/- is ridiculous. It's annoying that people automatically take this as the 'truth from on high' when it's going their way.

I remember when the same people who are touting these polls (read: Dean and the Kool Aid Brigade) were telling everyone that they meant nothing when their candidate was 20 points behind and now they are unrefutable...

I always knew that Dean would flip on this point but I believed that the Dean supporters would not succomb to that type of hipocracy. I honestly believed that they would remember that it's not what the polls and the pundits say, it's what we say. And we, the people haven't had our day yet. It's still an open race and none of your posturing will change that.

Please forgive the spelling errors. (:
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He loved Big Brother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 07:14 PM
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13. The majority of voters dont make up their mind
until the last week of the election?? Wha??

Does anybody have proof of this unbelievable claim? Proof please, thanks.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:52 PM
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9. A zogby poll for an Atlanta newspaper
277 likely primary voters MOE 6

What struck me was that the initial poll was taken in October, the subsequent one in December.

During that period Sharpton, Dean, "someone else" and undecided went up, while all the other candidates went down. Clark lost almost 7 points but most of the others saw their numbers cut almost in half.

I doubt Clark is losing sleep over this one.
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:44 PM
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11. What is it with Zogby?

Zogby polls always favor Dean more than other polls covering the same state/topic. Why is that? Is it a methodology thing, or is it whoever is paying for Zogby to conduct the poll?

Until there's a good explanation for this that shows Zogby is not unduly biased in Dean's favor, Zogby polls won't mean anything to me, about any candidate.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:14 PM
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12. Not Sure kicking butt with 42.1% with + or - of 6%
What a piece of crap.
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UnapologeticLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:49 PM
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15. Holy shit
This is great news...and supposedly we are winning South Carolina also now, although we are losing to Undecided, who seems to be our biggest competitor in a lot of states these days.

It is good to see Dean doing better in some southern states, because I think it will help ease fears that he cannot compete there.
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savvyspy Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 04:05 PM
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16. Georgia Poll
This poll shouldn't ease the fear that Dean can compete in the South. A Democratic ticket with Dean as the candidate loses to Bush by 20+ points in Georgia.

I'm shocked at how foolish the Democrats are being by going away from the Clinton Centrist politics that were so successful in the 90's.

Maybe it will take a landslide Bush win to finally jar some sense into this Party. I honestly thought Bush was vulnerable this time around but the Dems seem content to gift wrap another GOP victory yet again.

Few things in this world are certainties but a few that are:

Death
Taxes
A Liberal Elite Northeastern Democrat Will Never Win The Presidency

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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:34 PM
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18. And who's your candidate?
Dean is not a liberal, as much as the media tries to play him up as one, hell, he ain't even anti-war - he just had enough foresight to know invading Iraq was unnecessary and that we should have finished what we started in Afghanistan and persuing Al Qaida.
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