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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:56 AM
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Poll question: Sheen vs. Sheen - who had the best Vietnam movie
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 11:39 AM by LynneSin
Your choices:

Charlie Sheen:

Big name director: Oliver Stone
Director won Oscar? Yes
IMDB Top #250 Rank - #144
# of Oscar Nominations: 8(Acting noms for Tom Beringer and Willem Dafoe)
# of Wins:
4 Before they were famous: Johnny Depp played one of the soldiers in Sheen's platoon.
Famous Quote: Somebody once wrote: "Hell is the impossibility of reason." That's what this place feels like. Hell.




Martin Sheen

Big Name Director: Frances Ford Coppola
Director won Oscar? No
IMDB Top #250 Rank - #35
# of Oscar Nominations: 8 (Acting Nom for Robert Duvall)
# of Wins: 2
Before they were famous: Lawrence Fishborne was a soldier on the riverboat. At the time he was 14.
Famous Quote: "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning"
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:23 AM
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1. (Coppola > Stone) + (Martin > Charlie) = No contest
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 11:25 AM by Richardo
PS: Here's a photo for your OP if you so desire:

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:29 AM
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2. "Good Morning Viet Nam"
That and "Forrest Gump" are the most realistic portrayals I've seen. No gratuitous shit, just what pretty much happened.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:41 AM
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4. Ok dumbass! I guess you can't read!
This is Sheen vs. Sheen for best Vietnam film

Meaning you have to vote for one of the two movies listed

m'kay


(and btw you know I :loveya: )
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:55 AM
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5. "In The Army Now" starring Pauly Shore!


I know, I know...this game has rules and I'm not following them. But I'm a REBEL, Dottie.

:rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:12 PM
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6. Over the line, Sparky! Mark it zero! nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:57 PM
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9. I honestly wouldn't recognize Sheen if he was the drunk next to me at a bar.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:36 AM
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3. I vote for C: "Hot Shots: Part Deux" because you get both of them! On a more serious note, though,
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 11:37 AM by GreenPartyVoter


I thought both movies were brilliant and sad, but "Apocalypse Now" is maybe a little bit better because it's so crazy feeling. (Actually, looking this list over I find there were a lot of great movies done on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_film#Post-Vietnam_films Not sure why they left out "Good Morning Viet Nam" and "Forrest Gump," though. I guess there wasn't enough war in them?)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:24 PM
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7. Both are good, but Daddy's is a classic
he wins.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:33 PM
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8. Daddy's is better.
The Vietnam War was strange, the movie fits the war.

I had a friend, who was in the brown water Navy, he saw strange things.

Their boat would deliver and pick up special forces, he had stories.

He has passed away, Agent Orange got him.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:55 PM
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13. Strange? Yeah, and just surreal.
Viet Nam did a real number on the psyche of two nations.
'US' and 'Them'.
:eyes:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:04 PM
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10. Apocalypse by a nose.
Platoon good overall, AN great until Sheen meets Brando at the end and the picture goes off the rails a bit.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:56 PM
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11. Platoon is damn fine movie, but Apocalypse Now is pretty much one of the all time greats.
So, Daddy Sheen FTW.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:40 PM
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12. Emilio Estevez was in Apocalypse Now
His scene got cut in the original version. I think it might be in the extended version you referenced.

That would make two Estevez in Apocalypse Now to one in Platoon.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:58 PM
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14. From those two movies - Tom Berenger had the best quote:
Sgt. Barnes: You talking about killing? Hmm? Y'all experts? Y'all know about killing? I'd like to hear about it, potheads.

Sgt. Barnes: Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. There's the way it ought to be, and there's the way it is. Elias was full of shit. Elias was a crusader. Now, I got no fight... with any man who does what he's told. But when he don't, the machine breaks down. And when the machine breaks down, we break down. And I ain't gonna allow that... in any of you. Not one.

Sgt. Barnes: Y'all love Elias. Oh, you wanna kick ass. Yeah. Well, here I am, all by my lonesome. And there ain't nobody gonna know. Six of you boys against me. Kill me. Huh. I shit on all of you.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 01:17 PM
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18. You need that line just before it to setup the scene:
Barnes ain't meant to die. Only thing that can get Barnes ... is Barnes!
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:59 PM
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15. Though "Platoon" was great, "Apocalypse Now", by a landslide. How many know it was based on...
.
.
.
... Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness"? I saw the movie first and didn't
know until AFTER I started reading the book and recognized several of
the scenes/progressions in "Apocalypse Now" were SO much like some
of the passages in "Heart of Darkness" -- though for some reason I
didn't recognize the characters in BOTH stories were named "Kurtz"
until much later.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:24 PM
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16. Many people also believe Kurtz was also loosely based on real CIA operative, Tony Poe
There is some dispute about that because Coppola denies it (perhaps to avoid paying royalties).

I saw a TV special they did on Tony Poe. He was a very interesting character to say the least. I think he added a healthy sprinkling of bullshit but at least he tells a good story.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:35 PM
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17. Free your mind
and your ass will follow. - Junior

Platoon by a nose for me.
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