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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 02:59 PM
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Poll question: So who is going to be the winner of All-Star Survivor
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 03:02 PM by LynneSin
I know I'm digging this show and I'm thinking it could go to just about any of the 9 survivors left in the game. Rob and Lex seem to be playing a really strong game, but I don't know if they have the ability to manipulate enough folks to get them into the final 2. I'm thinking that Rupert, Jenna,Tom and Alicia will have a strong alliance and hopefully get rid of Boston Rob (who bugs the crap out of me). But I have a feeling that Kathy & Shi-ann are going to have to put up with Rob in order to get further in the game.

This should be interesting

Edit Note: I think it's great that 6 out of the 7 Survivor Seasons are represented in the final 9. I was worried that those seasons with 4 folks in the game (like the first few seasons) would form alliances to boot out the lessor seasons. Only Amazon is not represented in the final 9. (Rob C and Jenna M were out of the game early).

BTW, notice how Jeff Probst NEVER mentions a Jury? I wonder if the Jury will be the standard 9 or if they'll expand it to more Survivors?
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:04 PM
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1. Obligatory anti-reality TV post
They will a perish in a hail of violence when that smarmy host's head explodes, revealing that he is actually an evil robot. The evil robot will ensure that any survivors are quickly extinguished by his violent fire death ray. Then the evil robot will violently target all of the producers and anyone else responsible for the show's broadcast, up to and including CBS brass, who will also perish violently via the evil robot who has violently been revealed.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:05 PM
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3. HEY - don't hassle me for my brain candy
OK - it's my brain candy. We all have brain candy and mine happens to be Survivor.

:mad:
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:08 PM
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6. Here is a rare image of the evil robot


I'd advise the Survivors to be very very careful around that smarmy host, who is really an evil robot in disguise (above).
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:42 PM
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16. LOL
Okay, that's an anti-reality TV post I can live with.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:05 PM
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2. Go Kathy!!!!!!!
Like you, I can not stand Rob. I refuse to call him "Boston Rob" because he is an embarassment to Boston and Massachusetts. What a little worm he is. I bet he is a rethug! Besides, he does not live in Boston, anyway.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:06 PM
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4. Lex WAS playing a strong game
But he really screwed up in letting Jerri go last week.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:06 PM
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5. I'm thinking Rob
Did you get either of my PMs, by the way?

Season One is coming out on DVD, and I got an article published on Reality News Online! That's me going all Survivor geek, and yes, that's my real name. I've decided to come out and let it be revealed, both for ego purposes, and because I'm no longer afraid of freepers, etc.


Rob is either going down in the next two episodes, or he's winning. It's that simple. If he survives the next two votes, he wins. If he doesn't, it's Lex or Kathy, I dunno which. Probably Kathy, which is a shame, as both she and Lex have played horribly so far. They've made three of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen in this game, booting Rich, Colby, and Jerri. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:09 PM
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7. Booting Rich was a smart move
Because Rich is the ultimate survivor and he knows how to manipulate better than any of them.

Lex is the only person that could beat Rob in an immunity challenge so I'm thinking that Kathy & Lex will hold on to Rob & Amber until further into the game.

Yes, I got your posts - great article btw. Also - have you noticed that Probst hasn't mentioned anything about a Jury. What do you think about that?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:39 PM
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14. Hmm
Rich: I'm of two minds about that. First, notice that they fell completely and utterly apart after they booted Rich? You can trace everything to that point.

Of course, that also marks the point that they added the horrible Jerri and Ethan to their tribe. Ethan actually costs his tribe challenges. I would never want him anywhere near my tribe.

Also, one has to decide how Rich is going to play the game. If he plays it the way he played it the first time, you could trust him. Remember, he never once betrayed anybody. And everything he's said since indicates that Colby, Kathy and Shii Ann were his chosen three to go to F4, and he was basically going to do to Colby what Tina did to him. Heh heh. So yeah, I guess it was a good idea, long term. But you have to get there.

When you're playing with the best player ever, the best strategy is often to attach yourself to them like a remora and ride them to the end, then try to leapfrog them to F2.

Thanks for the compliments on the article. It's the first time I've tried something like that, and I didn't get many emails (1, actually) commenting on it. I guess that means I didn't make any mistakes, but still. :shrug:

I think the Lex/Kathy vs RobMber dynamic is an interesting one. It's primarily based on Tom, actually, I think, and we're not being shown some deals being cut. Kathy started some deal making when she went over, probably. And Tom is involved.

What I think happened: Tom is willing to hook up with Kathy/Lex, but is not willing to betray RobMber too early. Many players have a thing about this. Loyalty and betrayal is often measured in how early or late you do it. So, betraying Rob or Amber next week would be too soon, but betraying them at F6 would be fine. Sort of an "I took you as far as I could" sort of thing.

So the thinking is, Lex/Kathy, Rob/Amber, Tom, Shii Ann for Final Six. Sorry, Rupert, Jenna, and Alicia. Alicia goes first. Jenna goes next, big crying scene. Rupert goes next, feeling betrayed. Shii Ann goes because she just doesn't have the skills, and is only hooked up with one dyad, Lex/Kathy.

This leaves Tom in the power position. He can pick which way to go, with L/K or R/A. Obviously, the smart thing to do is go L/K, because he secretly has a deal with Lex from way back in Africa. Hopefully, he actually does do the smart thing.

So Rob goes at F5, then Amber at F4. This leaves Lex, Kathy, and Tom at F3. At this point, who knows? If it's a standard endurance challenge, Tom is out quick. Kathy would seem to have the advantage, as women have won 9 of 11 endurance challenges, which have made up 6 of the last 7 Final Three challenges. The only Final Three endurance challenge won by a man was Season 5's Brian Heidik, who set things up so he was up against very weak competition. (The other man to win an endurance challenge was Keith Famey from Season 2, and Tina, the eventual winner, gave him that one.)

OTOH, in the two UK Survivors, I believe men have won most of the endurance challenges, which also ran much longer than the US challenges have. One they did, standing on poles in a river, actually ran 23 or 25 hours. After 18 or 20 hours, there were still 6 or 8 contestants standing. Those folks really fought for it.

Suffice to say, I have no idea. If Kathy wins, who knows? She's likely to take Tom, thinking he didn't play hard enough, so she deserves it. She may take Lex, sticking to her alliance.

If either of the guys wins, they may take the other guy, in which case Lex wins, I'm fairly sure. Lex could well win. He was likely to win the endurance challenge in Africa, had he not been up all night with dysentery. Ick.

Here I go, writing another article. I'm actually trying out scenarios for our fantasy league Final 9 contest I'm about to enter. I've got 48 hours to finish up my entry. :D
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:18 PM
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9. Cool!
I just bookmarked your article for later. I started watching these shows with my boys. They have since grown, one at college so I have to record them to watch when he comes home! I will read with interest. This is the only show of its kind I have ever watched but I do like it a lot.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:41 PM
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15. Thank you!
Let me know how you like it. I've been asked to write at least one more, if not two, to finish out the season, and I'm looking for critical feedback, both good and bad. So tell me what you liked and disliked about it, so I know what to do for the next one.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:26 PM
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11. If kathy or Lex were to win
Then how could their decesions to boot Cobly/Jerry/Rich be stupid?
The only decesions that are bad are the ones that make you loose.

That said, how in the heck could those two have any chance of winning when the are cannabilizing their own team?

Personally, I think Rob is going down but His team (Amber, Tom, Alicia, Jenna) will be the top four. Rupert is not on the original team and will go out with the rest of the survivors.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:34 PM
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13. Congratulations! I haven't read your article yet, but that's
pretty cool.

Do you ever read the boards over at Television without Pity? They've got some great writers over there.

I can't say who I think is going to win because I read spoilers.:-)

Agree with you wholeheartedly that Lex and Kathy have made some poor decisions - Lex especially voting off Jerri - a sure vote vs. a promise from Rob?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:48 PM
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17. I stay away from most boards
Because of the spoilers.

I have one board I post to that's private (only 30+ members) and viciously moderated. Post a spoiler and you're banned. We like it like that. I get nervous even discussing it outside the board. Thanks for being discreet.

Oh, and I do read the stuff and RNO, they have a no spoiler policy. Let me know how you like the article, my email's at the end. Always looking for criticism, good and bad.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:39 PM
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22. The spoiler thread at TWOP is clearly marked and the
board is strictly monitored (even for grammar and capitalization!). I didn't read the spoilers for the longest time and then I said what the heck...

In any case, I enjoy the show just as much spoiled as I did spoil-free.

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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:56 PM
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18. I don't think anybody knows the final winner
The spoilers could probably give you the final two, but the final votes aren't read until months after taping.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:34 PM
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20. You're right, only the F2. But I don't want to reveal even
that.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:14 PM
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8. Boston Rob or Big Tom.
I would like to see any of those two win.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:24 PM
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10. I hope it's not Rob
I'd be happy if Big Tom, Rupert, or Kathy won.

I don't like Amber that much either.

If I had to pick, I'd go with Kathy.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:28 PM
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12. Rupert in the final 2
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 03:29 PM by WorstPresidentEver
Last season Rupert was pouting and looked bummed out when he was on the jury during the Tribal Councils. He obviously took getting the boot very hard and did not get over it quickly. During the finale, which was held two days after the end of All Stars, he was positively giddy and was smiling and giggling the whole time... which leads me to believe that he made it to the final two and thinks that he has a good chance of winning.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:22 PM
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19. Rob or Rupert
Kathy/Lex/ShiiAnn didn't do themselves any favors by getting rid of Jerri instead of Amber. Once they merge they will be quickly Pagonged, with Lex going first if he doesn't win immunity.

After that, it's anyone's game among Amber, Rob, Jenna, Alicia, Rupert and Tom. And Rob and Rupert have the best shot at winning challenges.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:35 PM
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21. What? No poll choice for "WHO CARES?"
Color me disappointed.
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