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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:24 PM
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Can anyone tell me the name of this tune?
I have heard a certain tune a few times in a certain restaurant. Apparently the restaurant has a tape which they play over and over again. Or maybe it's a Muzak channel.

The tune has no vocal part, so I have no verbal clue about the name of the tune.

I can describe the tune in such a way that a musician can play it, but the description is somewhat technical. Please bear with me if I use musical terms you aren't familiar with.

It's a funky jazz tune with straight (not swing) eighth notes. In other words, the eighth notes are not syncopated.

The tune is based on a pentatonic scale, like the first eight bars of "Oh Susannah" -- except that the tune is in a minor key, so it is more like the first eight bars of "Summertime". Any such tune can be played using only the black keys of a piano, and it can be played three different ways using only the white keys.

Using only the black keys, the tune can be played in the key of E-flat Minor.

Using only the white keys, the tune can be played in A Minor, D Minor, or E Minor.

I'll assume the tune is in D Minor. Each letter below stands for an eighth note (a-g, A) or eighth rest (r). ("A" is an octave above "a".)

The first four bars of the tune are:

AfgAfrra cdffdacd ffdacrdr rrrrrrrr

I'd be grateful if someone could tell me the name of this tune.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:35 PM
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1. The theme song to Hawaii 5-0!
Sorry, I was just reading that theme song thread...
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:21 PM
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4. Nope, that's a different tune.
But it is pentatonic.
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:46 PM
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2. I asked a guitar teacher he said "I got nothing" that it was a
bit vague. Although, he mostly knows Rock Music, and may just know know a jazz song. Can you be any more specific?
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:40 PM
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5. There is a song titled "I got nothing",
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 02:00 PM by Lionel Mandrake
but that's not the tune I am looking for.

How can I be more specific? AFAIK the original tune could be rock, or jazz, or jazz-rock fusion, or something else. The version I heard was played in a funky jazz style. The tune is not particularly lyrical. I doubt that it was ever a song.

If you would like to play the tune on a guitar, you might prefer to do so in the key of A Minor (so that the lowest note is an E).
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:46 PM
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8. No, that wasn't a song title-He said he tried and "got nothin" sorry I tried.
He said it sounded vaguely familiar but couldn't place it. The he explain pentatonic to me and charged me 17 buck. :hi:
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:05 PM
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9. Thanks for trying.
Wikipedia has a good article on the pentatonic scale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:05 PM
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3. There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold...
Stop me if you've heard this.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:43 PM
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6. Does she have a daughter?
Does she live on a farm, and does a traveling salesman stay overnight there? ;-)

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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:45 PM
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7. Have
you asked the restaurant if they know what songs are on the tape?
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:09 PM
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10. I asked a waiter and a few other employees.
None of them had a clue. :-(
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:15 PM
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11. Hmmm
If you are a regular there, maybe they would consider making a copy for you if you supplied the cassette tape or CD?
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 06:31 PM
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12. If you ever figure it out let me know, now I am just curious.nt
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:13 PM
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13. roger, wilco
as they say in the military (or so I'm told, never having served). :patriot:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:46 PM
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22. I've never heard Roger by Wilco, but they do other interesting stuff. :)
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:54 PM
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14. I played it on Piano and then Sax but got nothing although the first
5 notes remind me (slightly) of a movement in "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini in A minor"

sorry...
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:19 PM
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15. Thank you.
The rhythm is tricky. I sang along with the tune in the restaurant a few times, and I hope I got it right.

It's a very short tune. The possibilities for improvisation are not immediately obvious. I think the tune is like Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon" in that respect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejaumVVHAUQ

I haven't heard anything like this tune in Rachmaninoff's "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini in A minor". But I have only parts of "Rhapsody", not the complete work. What I have heard is very rich, including some quotations, e.g., of "Dies Irae":

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:04 PM
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16. Never gonna give you up
by Rick Astley. you're welcome in advance.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 03:37 PM
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18. No, that's not it.
Thanks anyway.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:26 PM
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17. March of the Toreadors
or maybe Funkytown.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 03:48 PM
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19. Nope
I know the Toreador song from Carmen, and that's not it.

I listened to "Funkytown" on YouTube, and that's not it, either.

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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:12 PM
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20. Is this it?
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:44 PM
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21. I don't know.
I haven't been able to play that file.

What does the filename extension "wma" stand for, and what kind of software is needed for it?
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:14 PM
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24. That's a Windows Media file.
Let me see if I can convert it to some other formats.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 01:45 AM
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28. And here I am using a Mac.
No wonder I couldn't play the Windows Media file.

I'll try it on my Evil Empire machine. ;-)
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:37 PM
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25. Here it is as a .wav and a .mid file
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 01:11 AM
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26. Yes, that's what I think I heard.
The .mid file sounds like a piano, and the last note is interrupted (as if a recorder were switched off too soon).

The .wav file sounds different, like a synthesizer in a very live room.

Thanks for playing the tune, however you did it. :)
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 02:24 AM
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29. Now that I have crossed over to the Dark Side
(since I'm using a Windows machine),
no .wma file can resist my powers.

This version also sounds like a piano.
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:45 AM
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30. There is kind of a quirky rhythm to the phrase, like a displaced bar line.
In that respect, it sounds like something ala Dave Brubeck, who often plays tricks with rhythm and mensuration.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:45 AM
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32. Exactly.
A phrase that lasts only 3/4 of a bar is repeated.

The high notes of that phrase (F's in your audio track) were accented in the performance I heard. The accents emphasized the quirkiness of the rhythm.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:56 PM
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23. Buy an iPhone. Install the Shazam app.
It will "listen" to any recorded song and identify by title, artist, and even let you go straight to the iTunes store to buy it.

It's a fabulous app.

:hi:

Bake
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 01:34 AM
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27. I have a BlackBerry.
I know, it's like having BetaMax just before VHS took over. But the damn things are expensive, and I'm not about to buy another smart phone any time soon.

I hear that Shazam is a Marvelous App. :evilgrin: (Couldn't resist.)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:00 AM
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31. Don't konw if Shazam is available for other platforms
But damn I love it! Use it all the time!!

Nice play on words, by the way! +1

:hi:

Bake
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:54 AM
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33. I don't know, either.
Last time I checked, Shazam was not available for BlackBerries

(or is it BlackBerrys?).       :hi:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:08 AM
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34. You need this ...
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 02:10 AM by eppur_se_muova
http://openlibrary.org/works/OL2624382W/Notating_music_with_ordinary_typewriter_characters_a_plaine_and_easie_code_system_for_musicke)

8a'fga'f__a/cdffdacd/ffdac_d_/1_/

(IIRC -- can't actually recall what was used for a rest, so I used _ .)

This would provide an easy way to exchange snippets of tunes between computer programs, including searches -- I'm sure commercial programs already have their standards for this, though. Maybe it could be revived as a non-propietary format.

If I had a copy, I'd upload it to Project Gutenburg ...
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