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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:35 PM
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I got the job
Well, at least I think I did

They want me to lower my hourly pay, which is fine

But for a certain job I was supposed to deliver a product demo today

I did, and made it

This was tough, because every person in the room was playing a "role"

And each role was designed to catch me off guard

And I didn't crash under pressure

I wasn't the best

But I didn't crash

So now I get to start

They say I need a lot of "work"

Fine

They will provide that work

At this point it is all about pay

And I am willing to lowball, for the opportunity

Maybe I'm playing this wrong

But, Japanese company, Japanese rules

It is what it is

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:42 PM
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1. Good to hear this, Tav.
Best of luck, esp w Japanese rules.
:hi:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:44 PM
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2. It's the George Costanza rules - look busy, they're comin'
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 05:59 PM
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3. Gotcha. You can do that, right???
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:23 PM
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6. Something like that...
:thumbsup:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:00 PM
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4. My dear Taverner!
Congratulations!

:yourock:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:31 PM
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10. Thank ya!
This is a tough market!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:01 PM
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5. good, good - good, good, good.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:31 PM
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11. good!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:27 PM
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7. I worked for a Japanese corporation for ten years.
An airline.
In my experience, they don't negotiate.
The offer is the offer, and the deal is the deal.
Even if they're in a poor bargaining position and you think you're holding the best hand.
Hard headed.
PM me if you want to talk.
I'd like to hear more particulars.
I am the soul of discretion.
Honestly.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:28 PM
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8. I accepted the deal
This is no market for one-upsmanship
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:41 PM
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9. You got that right.
My aviation career ended because I thought they would HAVE to accept the (modest and very reasonable) change to my contract.
I misunderestimated them.
They didn't.
If Tokyo HQ didn't invent it, it didn't exist.

You'd think I would have known better after 10 years experience with the culture.
What the hell, I was worn out and ready to hang it up at age 58 anyway.
That was 12 years ago, and I'm content.
Life goes on.

Best of luck.
trof
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 01:38 AM
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12. Great! Now, do you have a minute for a refresher on contract law?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 03:04 PM
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13. Funny how they show that at Toyota as how NOT to manage Americans...
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