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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:38 PM
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Modern day rap is shit...where's the smooth flows at anymore..
Got to go back almost 20 years now...I guess the industry will never recover with the likes of "lil Wayne" out there.


We need some Warren G again. RIP Nate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF74D3kbbTI



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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:44 PM
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1. Some 'Lil Wayne is decent.
Yeah, he's incredibly full of himself, but that's part and parcel of rap these days. It's hard to say that Jay-Z isn't smooth when he wants to be and although Kanye has moved away from straight up rap, he's still doing really inventive and good stuff. Have you heard this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoEKWtgJQAU&ob=av3e

Yeah, I'm not big on sampling and this particular one is a sacriledge, but damn if it's not good.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:59 PM
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2. I'm not a big fan of the JayZ either...this isn't too bad with Kanye
If I really posted what I thought about that @#%@#% lil wayney the post would be deleted...

Bone Thugs-n-Harmony came back together FINALLY with a pretty decent album, but now broke up of course again. (Bizzy should smack lil wayne if he ever see's him by the way :)

Check this out from Rebirth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsBV-P9gIC0&ob=av2e

That's what I'm talking about- "Never no competitionnnnnn"
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:08 PM
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3. Yeah, Uni-5 is a pretty solid album.
But that is 2010 we're talking about, I'm pretty sure that would qualify as modern rap. There's plenty of good new rap being made (all musical genres, actually), it's just a rarity that you'll hear it on the radio with a few exceptions.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:13 PM
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6. But it got about zero radio play...oh well, I guess that's what's MP3 is for
:)

Be nice to hear the next work out of Chamillionaire since he left Universal...

Everyone was waiting on Venom to come out but apparently Universal owns all the rights to everything during that time frame :(
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:16 PM
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7. Yeah. It's a pretty fruitless task trying to find decent music on the radio.
The crap to good ratio is at least 9:1. When I'm in my car, I typically listen to my own playlists. If I'm listening to radio, it's usually classic rock stations because I know my chances are decent of finding a good song.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:10 PM
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4. LOL! I have just had my first "Rap Geezer" experience!
Thanks! Btw I still really like Kanye and Lil John but I do know what you mean. Those internal rhyme schemes and wordplays are harder to come by.
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:12 PM
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5. Where's the next Luke Skywalker?
Who's gonna sing "Pop that cuchi" in 2011?
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:20 PM
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9. Well, it's not 2LC and it's not 2011, but I think this comes close:
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:17 PM
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8. Was that today?
:shrug:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 04:22 PM
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10. Nah. He died back in March.
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Dude111 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:30 PM
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11. 
Thats because most rap has been replaced with HIP HOP and that IS TRASH!!!!!!!

80s hip hop WAS GOOD but this crap out now SUCKS POND WATER!!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:44 PM
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12. I think ALL rap is crap, sorry.
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:47 PM
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13. I don't follow what's new
so I don't know how relevant these are but I'll list some of my very favorite things from the rap world. (I would post links but I;m at work and youtube is blocked so I Can't look them up. Trust me though - if you are interested at all, these are worth looking up)

Dalek
Louis Logic
M.U.R.S.
Jeru The Damaja (Album: THe Sun Rises In The East - haven't heard his other stuff)
Aesop Rock (mostly for his song "None Shall Pass")
Nujabes (and anyone he's worked with)
Deltron 2020
Asheru (If you watch The Boondocks you'll know them from the theme song)
Black Star (It's Mos Def and Talib Kweli at their finest as far as I am concerned - but yeah it's old)
Jedi Mind Tricks
Organized Konfusion



ACtually loioking over this list I realize it pretty much proves OP's point. I know nothing new lol. BUt these are good and I tried to avoid the obvious Wu-Tang and Dre and NWA and Nas and what-have-yous...
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:11 PM
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17. One of my favorite songs is Danger Mouse + MF Doom + Talib Kweli
Probably not the best song ever done, but very appealing (Old School Rules on The Mask and The Mouse).

I like Nujabes and Asheru, too (I may watch too many cartoons).
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:03 AM
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23. Organized Konfusion? Never thought I'd see them mentioned on DU...
Undoubtedly one of the most underrated, neglected (at least by the mainstream) hip-hop acts ever. Pharaohe Monche was on a damn near untouchable level in those days.

Here's a good example (some explicit lyrics, but not too bad) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXUltoGnDGI

"I rip your shit like Sinead!"
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:51 PM
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14. Is it just me or is everything shit?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 05:53 PM by pokerfan
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:59 PM
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15. I'm no connoisseur of the genre but I keep hearing stuff I like
I'm a middle-aged white chick so they're not trying to get my money, but I learned a long time ago I was cheating myself if I just wrote off a whole genre because the most popular stuff was crap. I tend to like the funnier, "dozens"-style and some stuff that isn't perhaps strictly rap, and even some big hits of the past few years. There's a lot of suckage in any genre, but finding the wheat amongst the chaff can be sorta fun. For me at least.
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:06 PM
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16. as a middle aged white guy
I can completely relate. I cheated myself for YEARS thinking metal was the only thing worth hearing. I been trying to catch up on everything else for more years.

Oh and one thing that IS new is "streetgrass". Kind of a mix between rap and bluegrass and it's good - not very many people doing it but the guy who does the theme for the TV show Justified is one (maybe the only? lol) Google that ish.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:14 PM
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18. Awesome. Bluegrass is underrated.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 06:16 PM by REP
Will have to search!

On edit: hope you're not cheating yourself out of Dethklok because it's a cartoon band. Brendon Small is fucking amazing and the lyrics, when they can be understood, are hilarious. And metal!
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:21 PM
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19. lol nope, I wouldn't cheat myself on that...
I have even seen them "live". But I've been a Brendan Small fan since Home Movies so when I heard he was gonna do a metal cartoon I was there on opening night.

DO YOU WANT SOME COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!?!?!?!?!?!?!


ANd yeah I always die a little when I hear someone say Country music is shit because I BET they never even tried good bluegrass. Some of the most sincere music on the planet as far as I'm concerned and sincerity gets me every time.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:27 PM
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20. A Home Movies fan?!?!?! ***swoon***
I have the box set. I've been a fan since it was first aired (both HM and Metalocalypse)! Haven't seen the band live, though - YET.

I like real country music - Hank Sr and those old timers - and the new alt country folks. Have you heard The Handsome Family? Good creepy shit.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 09:08 PM
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21. Lyrics Born is doing some smooth, aware stuff.
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 09:18 PM
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22. I like Lupe Fiasco...
Kid Cudi..

Old school is always the best though.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:28 PM
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24. Yeah, well Country died about the time Ricky Scaggs hit the scene.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:41 PM
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25. Pining for the days of Ice-T, Public Enemy and Mix-A-Lot. nt
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:51 PM
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26. "Told ya, shoulda killed me last year."
Looks like we did some years ago.

Cube is doing camping movies. I have to say it's a swell day.
Dre is holed up working on the same album for 10 years with no Snoop nor Em.
Mix-A-Lot gets smaller every year, dried up after a stint on The Simpsons.



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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 08:01 PM
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27. Closest to the G-Funk era without Snoop or Thugz? LUNIZ.
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